steelboy Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 The forecast is above freezing for Saturdy so there shouldn't be any problems. After the ice rink at Firhill I doubt another game will ever get called off for frozen pavements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 If you want to play stats - Docherty has 8 goals in 108 games, Cadden has 13 goals in 102 games. Not sure what that says about either, but stats are fun. I'm not playing stats. I'm making a direct comparison between goals and assists against comparable opposition over a season because some people on here think Greg Docherty couldn't dislodge Andy Rose or Liam Grimshaw from our midfield. That fact that you are producing stats that relate to career overviews against different standards of opponent, since these stats are not league stats, has nothing to do with my argument. They have no relevance to the point I was making. You know this because you aren't stupid and yet you feel compelled to make this quite stupid comparison. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I'm not playing stats. I'm making a direct comparison between goals and assists against comparable opposition over a season because some people on here think Greg Docherty couldn't dislodge Andy Rose or Liam Grimshaw from our midfield. That fact that you are producing stats that relate to career overviews against different standards of opponent, since these stats are not league stats, has nothing to do with my argument. They have no relevance to the point I was making. You know this because you aren't stupid and yet you feel compelled to make this quite stupid comparison. Why? The stats you get orgasmic about are meaningless pish, who cares if Docherty had 3 goals and 6 assists in 1,867 mins of football FFS get a life. That could be a blinding 1st 45 mins then another 1,822 mins of his usual dross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Assigning individual stats to a player in a 100% team sport is always going to be difficult compared to sports like cricket and baseball where there is a clearer individual aspect. The problem with assists as a statistic is that youre relying on the person youre assisting to actually finish. You could be putting in perfect passes and crosses but have nothing to show for it because the striker is a diddy. Or you could be putting half decent balls in a general area for an excellent striker to convert. All assists arent equal. If you take Caddens assist for Moults goal against Aberdeen, any other striker and that probably isnt a goal. Goals as a stat also has a bunch of factors which can skew its usefulness too, how many chances did the player have to score? Does he take penalties or free kicks, is he being played in a position where it is expected to get into goalscorimg positions, etc. Overall, I think the eye test works best. Ive looked at the advanced stats out there and they are interesting, but i still think there is a long way to go as there are too many intangibles in football compared to some of the more stat friendly sports. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I'm not playing stats. I'm making a direct comparison between goals and assists against comparable opposition over a season because some people on here think Greg Docherty couldn't dislodge Andy Rose or Liam Grimshaw from our midfield. That fact that you are producing stats that relate to career overviews against different standards of opponent, since these stats are not league stats, has nothing to do with my argument. They have no relevance to the point I was making. You know this because you aren't stupid and yet you feel compelled to make this quite stupid comparison. Why? Looked like stats to me - and only over a half season. Seems to me that they were cherry picked to make a point rather than look at the larger picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I'd probably take Docherty over all our midfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Not before Campbell imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Not long til the weekend. Thoughts on lineup? Wouldn't be surprised to see Cifcti and Main start up top given the managers comments about the strikers not doing it. Aldred straight in for Hartley or too risky? A last appearance in the cup for Hammell before he retires at the end of the month? Quite a few choices to make with only Frear and Petra likely to be ruled out by injury. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dossertillidie Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Not long til the weekend. Thoughts on lineup? Wouldn't be surprised to see Cifcti and Main start up top given the managers comments about the strikers not doing it. Aldred straight in for Hartley or too risky? A last appearance in the cup for Hammell before he retires at the end of the month? Quite a few choices to make with only Frear and Petra likely to be ruled out by injury. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Reckon he should go 4 at the back for this one with ciftci and main up top however wouldnt surprise me if he goes kipre,Aldred and dunne at back Either way I think it will be caden,McHugh,rose and campbell with Tait making the 5th in midfield and the two new lads up top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 He's not going to drop Tanner surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Ciftci and main will be short of match practice, so Id be surprised if both started, but who knows. I do see the new defender starting since hartley is suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 He's not going to drop Tanner surely? Tanner should be one of the first names on the team sheet when we are struggling for creativity and goals 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmfc Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I reckon itll be: Carson Kipre, Aldred, Dunne Cadden Campbell McHugh Tait Tanner Ciftci Main/Bowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I reckon itll be: Carson Kipre, Aldred, Dunne Cadden Campbell McHugh Tait Tanner Ciftci Main/Bowman Don't think you'll be a million miles away with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Hartley won't be missing this one will he? Thought his suspension would have been for league games only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 I believe as the red card was for violent conduct, he misses the next three games regardless of the competition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Listed as 2 first team matches as per the Sfa website (those that are just for league matches are specified as such) The next league game is going to be a bad one with him, Tait and mchugh all missing, along with whoever the ref sends off on Saturday. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/2958/los26-4-january-2018-docx.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Listed as 2 first team matches as per the Sfa website (those that are just for league matches are specified as such) The next league game is going to be a bad one with him, Tait and mchugh all missing, along with whoever the ref sends off on Saturday. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/2958/los26-4-january-2018-docx.pdf McHugh has already served his suspension against Accies on 30 December. Will Carson be fit for Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 McHugh has already served his suspension against Accies on 30 December. Will Carson be fit for Saturday? Hope so. Him being out would be a massive advantage to accies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Superwell Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Carson should be fit, that Greek keeper is away as that's who's squad number Aldred has taken I believe. Only player that's been mentioned as definitely still out is Frear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Regarding the team, Id like to see us go 4231/433 for the 2nd half of the season with Cadden and Frear higher up the park. Judging by Robinsons comments in December however, a back 3 will remain the preferred approach. That being the case, Id go: Carson Kipre McHugh Dunne Cadden Rose Campbell Bigi Tait Tanner Nadir I think this will go to a replay. Edit - Robinson unsure whether Cadden and Tanner will make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_tony Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Regarding the team, Id like to see us go 4231/433 Something along these lines would, on paper at least, be quite an exciting prospect: Carson Tait Kipre/Aldred Hartley Dunne/LB Campbell McHugh Cadden Tanner Frear Ciftci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Frear Im sure will def not play as still injured ,Hartley is suspended , and Cadden and Tanner both doubtful so no chance of that team on Saturday but going forward few weeks possibly . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Wait. When did Tanner get injured?!?! Whos going to create then? So the winter break has done us the world of good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 So the winter break has done us the world of good.... You'd rather have carried on playing after the last Accies game with our injured players missing and no time for the ones struggling for form to recharge and regroup? Mental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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