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Just had a h*n at my door telling me they're buying Cadden......I take it that's a load of bollocks ?

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Let me say right away I don't want the guy sacked (honest) but the question needs to be asked. Can he turn it around ? Or has it all been a flash in the pan.

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He gets until the end of February for me. If we haven't pulled ourself away from any relegation threat, he can't keep his job.

However, I'm still hopeful that this break and a tranafer window will allow him the time to sort it out.
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I really hope this is a blip but I am fearful my initial thoughts about hime are coming true. He could not stop the downward spiral at Oldham and we are in the same. However, let's see after break, recoveries for Cadden and Frear from injury and his performance in transfer market. My big worry is that we are n to scoring enough and losing easy goals week after week. 

If no improvement over next few games then I would be voting to get him out.


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Hes definitely in danger of keeping his job . Thats a terrible performance today . Lacked inventiveness , and when we went two one done its scarey how we seemed to accept defeat . His jacket is hanging by a thread .

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Aye he gets the window and the three home games at the start of February for me.

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Give him the window and money to spend based on his previous signings then we will be in real shite.

Give someone else the window to bring in some players and get a togetherness back in the squad

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Yeah agree . We have never played silky soccer under him but made up for our deficiencies by fighting scrapping winnining second balls and pressing the ball . Now these attributes have gone weve got nothing . Looks like we might do a hibs

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Not for me.  We played really well Aug - Nov. Shite Nov - Dec while losing at various times Carson, Hartlely, McHugh, Cadden, Frear and Moult.

 

Winter break and window is coming at exactly the right time.

 

We need to do some decent business in the transfer window and regain some form sharpish. I think we will and we will not be in a relegation fight....which has been the talked about target from Day 1.


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Looking like a one trick pony . In terms of technical ability worst team Ive seen in years . Cant break teams down . Looked over at management team today . Even they looked devoid of ideas . Beginning to think he talks a good game

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A manager who got us to a Scottish Cup Final and guided us to multiple 2nd and 3rd league finishes in the league was forced out after a run that was only 1 point worse than the current run over 11 matches.

 

If Robinson was fired tomorrow I don't think he could have much to complain about.

 

Should he be fired?  There's a decision to be made and sometimes you have to be ruthless.  Personally I'd give it a couple more games but if we lost the next two I don't think he'd have a leg to stand on. 

 

The problem with that is the January transfer window coming before those matches complicates the whole decision. 


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Sadly its becoming more and more obvious that most of his summer signings are actually pretty poor. For me Carson, Hartley, Kipri and maybe Tanner, the rest are not up to it. Should he stay ? If its a four year contract thats a hell of an expensive pay off coming so I would personally give him the window and January.

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Folk often accuse the club of being short sighted for a whole variety of reasons and yet the responses in this thread are the very epitome of short sighted. 

 

What kind of club do we want to be? A club where managers are given the chance to build something meaningful over a number of windows and are supported through tough patches, or are we the type of club who pull the trigger at the first downturn in results? If we're expecting a high calibre of manager to come in then a history of loyalty through the bad times can't be underestimated. 

 

Chucking the guy any time soon would completely destroy our credibility as a club to work at. 


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Sadly its becoming more and more obvious that most of his summer signings are actually pretty poor. For me Carson, Hartley, Kipri and maybe Tanner, the rest are not up to it. Should he stay ? If its a four year contract thats a hell of an expensive pay off coming so I would personally give him the window and January.

 

I'm told that it's normal practice for football manager contracts to have a clause that they can be cancelled by paying out 6 months or 8 months pay.

 

We probably wouldn't have to pay out 4 years, unless we fucked the contract up as well.


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Folk often accuse the club of being short sighted for a whole variety of reasons and yet the responses in this thread are the very epitome of short sighted. 

 

What kind of club do we want to be? A club where managers are given the chance to build something meaningful over a number of windows and are supported through tough patches, or are we the type of club who pull the trigger at the first downturn in results? If we're expecting a high calibre of manager to come in then a history of loyalty through the bad times can't be underestimated. 

 

Chucking the guy any time soon would completely destroy our credibility as a club to work at. 

I can see a lot of what you say, but on the other hand could we attract any kind of high quality manager if we get relegated? Tough one for the board and I said earlier would be up for giving him a chance but as we do need to be short sighted because of our financial situation this level of results cant go on much longer.


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Folk often accuse the club of being short sighted for a whole variety of reasons and yet the responses in this thread are the very epitome of short sighted. 
 
What kind of club do we want to be? A club where managers are given the chance to build something meaningful over a number of windows and are supported through tough patches, or are we the type of club who pull the trigger at the first downturn in results? If we're expecting a high calibre of manager to come in then a history of loyalty through the bad times can't be underestimated. 
 
Chucking the guy any time soon would completely destroy our credibility as a club to work at. 

I cant disagree with the post and did mention a while ago how short sighted it would be. But sadly the nature of sport in general is you are judged on results at the end of the day. He himself hinted in the post match interview last game that the run of results was relegation material and it had to stop soon. If we dont start winning there comes a point hes going to get sacked.

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To soon. let him have a transfer window and get our injured players back and the players a rest. Our hopes were raised with having such a good start to the season.
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Would be keen to see Robbo stay on. He's a very likable manager and speaks very openly & honestly, which fits in to the club ethos at this time. Obviously the form has been dreadful and if it continues, he should be let go. But I think he's been dealt a tough hand over the previous month or two. The triple-header against Celtic, the selling of our best player & injuries to our other better players have all transpired at the same time. The squad performed really well at the start of the season, getting all our hopes up, but they are still essentially a new team that are getting used to each other & Robbo getting used to them. Bowman has refound his form from last season since Moult's gone which doesn't help. Fisher has been an overall disappointment and that leaves us with a striker leading the line that's had less than a half of professional football under his belt. This window is massive & if the signings are near the talent he brought in this summer, I'm confident he can turn this ship around.


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Robinson out.....?

 

no


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Not for me.  We played really well Aug - Nov. Shite Nov - Dec
 

Not even that. We drew with Celtic and beat Aberdeen in November. We've literally had one bad month.

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A real shame to see this thread make it's appearance so quickly.

 

 

We have to think back one whole calender month (yes one month ago), to a time when we were in a cup final and our manager was being mentioned for the Northern Ireland job. To be fair it was just as ridiculous then, that he should be being considered for that job  as  it is now that there is talk of sacking him.

 

Dundee Utd suffered a very similar fate to ours just a few seasons ago.I don't remember the exact details, but after a very bright start to the season involving a strong cup run, they played Celtic on (I think) three consecutive occasions, losing all three. They then lost Armstrong and Mackay-Steven to Celtic and did not recover.The end result was that Macnamara lost his job and United were ulimately relegated.

 

My feeling is that the team were burnt out after the trio of Celtic matches.The controversy surrounding the games did not help. To lose Moult and Cadden to injury (our two most influential player in my opinion) has only compounded the problem. I don't think we can underestimate the effort that went into those games. Interestingly, Celtic have struggled (by their standards) since then too.

 

The winter break has come a few weeks too late I feel but it is now here. Let the players recover and let the manager freshen the squad then see where we go from there.

 

If we look at the year as a whole Robinson has done very well. He saved us from relegation and got us to a cup final. As it stands at this moment we are still only a few points off the top six. He deserves a chance.


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