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Are facepalms considered booing? Asking for a friend! 😆

The problem for Halliday is that he came with a pedigree so expectations are higher. Im hoping his issues are just lack of football and match fitness and that its not that his legs are just gone. Happy to see how he looks after a proper pre season and a bit more first team football. We should offer Theo an improved deal because he has earned it, but also to show prospective suitors we are serious about keeping him and if they want him they will need to make it worth our while. If we want to push his value up we need to send out the right signals.

Who says it isnt?

Feed the Bair. The scouts are watching! A couple more for the highlights reel would be (a few more) grand!

We got less than £1m for last seasons Premiership top scorer on 28 goals. There are lots of variable factors but Theo has scored 13 goals and prior to this season had a total of 8 senior goals. I take my hat off to the big chap for the improvement he has shown this season and it would be great to keep him as I think he can still improve, but anyone that thinks that we wont move him on if money like that comes in, or that he wouldnt want to move up a level isnt being realisitic. Particularly those that would argue that fan ownership isnt working and we need to drop our pants at £1.5m investment from outside sources.......

I think the documentary side of things has potential as a revenue stream and possibly the streaming of our games more globally, as thats what Barmack knows. But how that fits with tv deals negotiated by the League, SFA, UEFA etc remains to be seen. The player trading also has possibilities, but we would need to be a whole lit better at it than we are now for both Barmack AND Motherwell to make more money out of it. An academy in the States with access to a larger pool of talent with the outlook of moving them onto the Premiership could work, but again Id be concerned about how this would impact local talent getting into the team, as thats pretty much been my favourite thing over the last 10 years. Watching the likes of Cadden, Campbell, Turnbell, Hastie, Johnstone and Miller all coming through has been a joy.

Thanks for this Jay. Important we get some general information and opinion from members of the Society Board.

There is a huge difference between increasing revenue streams and taking on outside investment. The club will have to increase its revenue streams regardless of whether it stays under fan ownership or sells its majority shareholding to a private investor. If we sell, the initial money will be welcome, but it doesnt seem like its going to be transformational, and its benefit could be short lived. We still need to live within our means, otherwise we end up owing money to the investor like Dundee, Dundee United or any of the other clubs going down this route. Thats fine as long as the investor is happy with that situation. The minute they are not you are back in a "John Boyle" situation or worse. I look at the potential investment more like a Dragons Den situation, where the worth to the club could be through the particular skillset and expertise that Bamack could bring, rather than how deep his pockets are, which really is irelevant. Its worth noting also, that we have just appointed a new CEO. Id be interested to hear what his ideas are about increasing revenue streams alongside the Society. It could be that a mixed model with Society/Club/Barmack working together is the way forward.

Sometimes its best not to over complicate things! 😆😆😆

I dont know anything for a fact. Only the investor and the club know what the deal is (or should). But some of our fans seem to think that outside investment is some sort of no risk Nirvana where we never have to pay any money back and we can instantly spend more money on players. Given how negative many are being about fan ownership, I think its important that someone highlights the risks on the other side of the fence. I do want to re-iterate though, that I wont make my own mind up one way or the other until I see the detail of the deal.

By exploring other revenue streams not currently being tapped. No different than the investor who is looking for control of the club. The money he intends to invest wont be free. He wants it back with interest. So he will have to find ways of getting more money into the club. Otherwise he and we dont make any more money. The advantage he has at the moment is that he comes from a corporate background and clearly has experience in that field. That doesnt mean to say that there arent smart peoplenon the WS Board noe though with ideas of their own.

Because the people that were elected to the WS Board were happy to allow the executive board to keep the Society at arms length. Thats no longer the case.

You werent the only one! I was shouting at him to leave the kick alone for the very same reason. He shut me up good and proper! Absolute worldy!

Of course they can. But whats the point? If you want to remain a shareholder you can buy an ordinary share. The purpose of the Society was to deliver a fan owned club. And it suceeded in that regard. If the club is no longer fan owned, the reason for the Society no longer exists. I will simply stop my direct debit and put money into the club some other way of my choosing.

PS. I agree with David, in that if this deal goes through (and I might yet vote for it) and the Society no longer has majority shareholding, I will no longer feel the need to continue my subscription. In my opinion, if you give away majority shareholding the purpose of the Society no longer exists and you may as well wind it up. Not sure if the Board or investors hace considered that.......