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Forgot professionals in every field get everything right and can't get anything wrong. I expect you'll never offer your opinion of what a manager/player/recruitment team you perceive to get wrong because they're in post.

Time to give them an utter scudding

Shinnie is a complete fuckwit. He’d make an excellent ref.

"Team news?" "At least Oscar is fresh"

In the olden days, referees would take playing conditions into account when considering punishing "culprits". Not now though. No common sense being applied.

Going to a sportsman dinner with him as a speaker and me as warm up comedy act would be stuff of nightmares!! 🤪🤪🤪

I know but the rules have to say its where u end up not how you got there .

You'd struggle to find a more greetin' faced referee botherer than Shinnie, and yet, following Gordon's foul, he gives him a hand up and makes absolutely no move to complain after the ref shows the yellow card. That should tell them all they need to know.

'He's not an average player...........he's a total total k**b!! 🤣🤣

Shinnie is a very average player , if he marked his man the way he marks the ref, he'd be a player

Agreed and Jens suggesting that as well in press conference. He’s very measured in his response to questions and suggesting referees would benefit from more time to review and discuss decisions seems in keeping with his continuous improvement approach rather than, what for some others would be , a dig at officials.

If correct, the current rule of sending a player off for something they had no control over is bonkers and needs to be changed. Its quite ironic that of the two red cards, the one we are mostly agreed on not being a red is the one where the defender deliberately brought the attacker down. Thats where we have come to. Absolutely mental. Priestmans is technically correct but should never be a red card, Gordons shouldnt have been, because there is nothing "obvious" about Olusanya's opportunity to score. But Im fully in favour of the deliberate "professional" foul being made a red card offence, much like it was in the old days. (See John Souttar on Elijah Just at Fir Park).

Yup, Milanovic, very kind gesture. What you don't see is Shinnie off camera wanting him banned for 10 games!!!

Good stuff, the gods weren't on our side, don't think the line up would've mattered re OP slip. I've not looked into law, take it wording doesnt mention deliberate foul?? Also I noticed one of Aberdeen players asking for him not to be sent off, which is admirable. I'd Like to think I'd give benefit of doubt to a player who slipped especially so early in game...

The gaffer

This all depends on having competent people wanting to be referees. I'm not sure how many sane individuals would want to make that career move. Worth a try though.

Very disappointed at result but more than anything the manner of it , hard to stomach , so much went wrong . But I will not question our leader or our team , long time since went to FP with smile on face and left with a bigger one . We are a Motherwell I'd thought never see again with current set up and resources available i used to trudge to every game now I skip

I blame Kenny McLean for Gordon's red card.

Spot on, well said,

If only he had done that on Wednesday night.

Gordon for me looks like he is buffering on the ball and immediately wants to hoof it right up the park as soon as he gets. Should be only used in a last of last resorts.

The interpretation aspect will almost always come into play in whatever circumstances occur. eg if Priestman is a red because of clear goal scoring opportunity the why not award goal and not send player off. Would almost certainly discourage deliberate fouls as potential for striker to miss/goalie to save is higher. but what about Gordon situation. He definitely deliberately brought player down but surely he, along with pretty much all except Var official, thought it was a yellow and nowhere near being a clear goal scoring opportunity. Rule would then be faced with specifying how far out, how many players closer to goal, whether a shaved beard increased SoDs aerodynamic interception sprint speed etc. Sin bins to remove absolutes in a game might be closest to trying to avoid ruining spectacle. May even make the 10/15 mins more exciting as team with advantage try and press it. id be quite happy if Gogic and few StM bruisers were shown early reds right enough.

Yes, once you start to dig into stats games can appear much harder than you originally thought. We are obviously capable of getting 3 points but coming away with a draw might be a decent result. I think O’Hara is back playing first them again so I’m sure that’s a big plus for them. May come down to us being a bit more clinical in front of goal.

There is a better option: a full overhaul. Move to full-time officials who are subject to promotion and demotion, with oversight from independent, ideally foreign or remotely based officials rather than retired SFA refs. They must be properly held accountable for their performances. If the current crop don’t like that, they can leave. We must demand better. It’s ruining our game as it stands.