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Jonathan Page signs for Clyde. That training gear of his I bought in the fund raising auction must be rising in value quicker than bitcoin.
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To be fair Lewandowski scored 2 and had chances to win it for Poland, but I take your point, a goalscorer for Scotland with a fraction of his talent would be a step in the right direction,but finding a player like that is another matter.
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My take on it is he’s not the greatest player ever to grace a Scotland jersey but neither are the majority of players capped over the last ten years or so. The days of players like Kenny D and the like who were the backbone of Man Utd and Liverpool are well gone and may never return. I personally don’t get the amount of stick he gets by some Motherwell supporters but hey each to their own, it’s a free country I guess.
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It was great to see one of our players representing the country at a major tournament but for me o'donnell isn't good enough for that level,I would even suggest on club form last season he wouldn't have been picked as for me he was pretty poor overall but it just shows there isn't any better options,the guy palmer looked a bombscare anytime he was involved and there's no way Patterson can be considered as first choice until he's playing week in week out with rangers or elsewhere.what does annoy me though is o'donnell is an easy target for fans of other clubs just because he plays with motherwell but there's so called better players playing in better leagues that consistently fail to turn up and produce for scotland,take stuart armstrong for example anytime I've seen him for southampton he seems to play well but take last night,he was strolling about and in need of a rocket up his arse.its just a pity that we always seem to be strong in one or two areas of the national team and shit in the rest and we can't get together a fairly strong 11 that might bring us a bit of success.
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I'd suggest it's the opinion of most Scotland followers who arent blinded by the good old claret and amber spectacles As for the strikers, both are playing consistently at a higher level than our guy On the manager, I have a fair amount of time for him, but I think he could a fair few things wrong over the past couple of weeks
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No not clearly the weakest player that's your opinion. Dykes and Adams are far worse strikers that SOD is a defender. But they are deemed to be the best options by the manager who i expect you will say is rubbish as well. The negative posts on this forum about a Motherwell player who is representing his country are DUGSHITE
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I have sympathy with both Clarke and SOD as there is no other obvious candidate...Palmer is on a level par with SOD, Paterson is young and highly inexperienced, Rooney would have been a huge risk, Hickey has hardly played in months and is inexperienced, Forrest wouldn't do any better defensively than SOD...so I see why Clarke sticks by him. It's just a pity that he is clearly the weakest player in the regular starting XI.
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The criticism of O'Donnell is over the top, his performance last night wasn't his best but was of a similar level to that of most of his team-mates. I've seen a few posters on here parroting the meedja line that Nathan Patterson should be in the team from this point forward (and in some cases that he should have played the 3 Euros matches). Worth pointing out that he has played 7 senior matches for the Buns. 7. He may turn out to be another Cafu but I think he needs to prove it at domestic level over a longer period than that before he's heralded as the next big thing. But then how many players have we seen struggle to get a game for Scotland then become a regular in the squad as soon as they sign for one of the ugly sisters. Whatever happened to Lewis Morgan?
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What's supporting Motherwell got to do with my opinion of a player playing in a Scotland Jersey? Do I think SOD is adequate at our level? Aye...do I think he is what we need in a Scotland Jersey? Absolutely not. There are nae claret and amber tinted specs where me and Scotland are concerned.
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We’ll don’t. Not everybody is part of the Stephen O’Donnell love in.
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Was thinking that myself but it has become pretty known knowledge in the last few days.
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I presume you mean Hartwood hospital, as I have it from a good source that he was indeed DUGSHITE himself, only saying like.
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He was. I can vouch for that. It’s a shame Hartwood disbanded when he was on the cusp of even greater things. Had been untold success until then.
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Obviously been reading this site and P&B.
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Having been an avid reader as regards the content and discussion on this forum, I decided to join. May I just say for my first post, Mr Fortyarder you must have been some player yourself and to describe our Captain and 20 plus Scotland cap player as Dugshite I wonder why you even post or support the team. Some of your comments regarding our players are outrageous.
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Yes, some of the comments from Motherwell supporters on SOD are perplexing and disappointing. Normally supporters of a club at our level would be quite proud of his cap. Players at more illustrious clubs seem to get a free pass, however. To my eyes, Armstrong was extremely poor, McTominay is completely over-rated and Tierney lost his aerial duel at a set-piece for the third goal, yet it seems only O'Donnell is to blame for Croatia's first. Sometimes there's a weird kind of self-loathing exhibited on these pages which makes me wonder if some folk support our club or country at all. Agreed we had no natural goal-scorers, which ultimately was our downfall, but following that logic how bad must Poland be, going out on the same points as us with Lewandowski playing for them with 41 goals in the Bundesliga this year?
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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/motherwell-target-four-summer-signings-24383277 Motherwell target four summer signings from down southL LanarkshireLive Sport understands the Fir Park club are looking at a goalkeeper, defender, midfielder and a striker Motherwell are believed to be interested in bolstering their squad with four players from down south. Welsh international goalkeeper Tom King, Irish defender Darragh O'Connor, midfielder Joe Muscatt and striker Shayon Harrison are believed to be on the Fir Park club's shopping list King, 26, is at Newport County and although he played for England at under-17 level, he was called up for the Welsh national team in 2019 for Euro 2020 qualifying matches against Azerbaijan and Hungary. Former Waterford and Shamrock under-19 defender O'Connor, 21, is currently at Leicester City under-23s. Muscatt, 23, an English midfielder with a Maltese passport, started his career with Tottenham Hotspur as a youth and moved to Bolton, but is currently with Paderborn II in Germany. Forward Harrison (23) is currently with English League One side AFC Wimbledon, but spent nearly two years with Almere City in Holland. Motherwell have taken their pre-season signings so far to three, with Kaiyne Woolery and Justin Amaluzor coming in after Connor Shields was snapped up from Queen of the South.
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A bit like Brian Kerr - has the footballing talent, not always the application to match. We do need a footballer in the middle of the park though, and haven't signed one yet.
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Seems my comment was to close to reality to be taken as the piss take it was. People clamour for players with proven SPL experience but when we bring in players with that experience and in our budget they get derided. Lawless had a poor 6 months, but he's clearly not a bad player at this level. Lamie started weakly but came on to a game by the end of the season. Crawford was solid enough as is O'Hara. All solid SPL players. The only big name SPL signing we've made in a long time is O'Donnell and maybe Watt. They've both been very good for us but haven't been without their detractors
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Found his Level, wonder if his Missus will be running a shitehole comparison series of tweets Motherwell or Kilmarnock
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Totally agree That's the fundamental issue with Scotland, no goalscorer, most of the goals Scotland score are against the dross teams, like San Marino, Gibraltar and the like and even then its maybe only 1 or 2 when the better teams are hitting 5 and 6. The whole setup at the SFA is a shambles, Clarke is getting praise for doing a good job, when in reality he is tactically clueless. We need somebody in who will ditch all the has beens who have had their chance and bring in the young talent in in Scotland like Turnbull, Nisbet, Patterson, Gilmour etc to work with and develop alongside the core top players we have Robertson, Tierney, McTomminay, McGinn, might take a couple of years to build a team but it needs to happen. Oh and cut SOD some slack he's maybe not the best in the Scotland team but he's definitely not the worst.
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Aye we could follow St Mirren's example and hoover up all the dross the other clubs don't want. Our marketplace for signing's is dictated by our budget, so that means lower leagues and non league, yes this means we are taking a bit of a punt sometimes but we have had some good business in recent years, kipre, Moult, Johnson, Hartley to name a few.
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I agree we will need to find goals to qualify. I just think we are closer to having a team that can compete than you appear to be given the players at our disposal. That is if Clarke wakes up, stops being swayed by reputation and the media, learns from the past couple of weeks and sets us up to win rather than avoid defeat. A big ask given his history and on top of that he has to be ruthless and look to the future. And the repeated SOD trashing by some on here for every (possible) error whilst intentionally ignoring good performances is just disgusting. He plays for a wee team in Scotland and represents us well. It's not like he is at Bayern, PSG or Real Madrid and you might think folks judgements would reflect that fact. Good debate though.
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He's too old now
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100% This is why I tend to avoid on here in the close season. Every year it's the same, the players we sign are shite/not good enough/never heard of them. If we went out and signed Messi some folk would still find something about him to moan about.
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