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Sorry just got what you did there! Nice work!
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Robinson doesn't want wide players in the traditional sense - he wants wing backs that track back and cover in defence. Typically, that means natural wide players - or wingers as the old folks call them - aren't part of the mix. He's happier to play a defender that can run up and down a bit, than a winger that can take people on and hit the bye-line.
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We have a shit load of central players and very few who can play wide. Cadden is in everyone of the teams picked by folk and I can only assume it's cos we don't have any other wide players.
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Didnt we try that against Hibs?
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Great post! Exactly the team I’d like to see start in the absence Bowman, Tanner and Dunne. Would deffo give us more ball players but still keep the endeavour of Campbell, Tait and Cadden. I am a fan of Robinson and he still has a lot of credit in the bank in my opinion, but if we start with Main & Sammon on Saturday I think we better start worrying........
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Livvy know they will be going out after playing the Cup specialists so I can understand them pushing for a higher ticket price. There - I have jinxed it for us :-)
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Free kids under 12 to be fair, so not a bad deal at all!
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£18 for adults and £12 for concessions. Flow confirms we wanted cheaper and Livi weren’t for it.
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I'd quite like to see us starting Rose Grimshaw.
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That joke is pasta its best.
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I agree. But until Dunne is back we look short of options. Donnelly and ATS havent looked concvincing and I dont see anyone else with the correct attributes. As per my last post going 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 arent without their own issues.
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Playing the most ugliest brand of football and winning is almost tolerable but there’s no hiding place if we get beat. Robinson is therefore rightly open to criticism in my opinion and that comes from someone who has been fairly supportive of him in the past. The problem we now have, amongst many other deficiencies, is that we don’t now have any central defenders comfortable playing from the back and in Hartley and Alfred (and dunne when he’s fit) have an ultimate hoofing gene code. Kipre wasn’t perfect, and it wasn’t without risk, but he brought the ball out from defence reasonably well. Another gripe I have, and it’s one that every Motherwell I spoken to on Saturday agreed with, is that Robinson somehow sees sammon and main as a viable and effective strike partnership. This should be the last we see of this, even if it is a week too late. There are many other issues from Saturday and previous games that I could raise but in the main I can’t be arsed as most have covered the very same concerns. It’s just a pity that after 4.5k home fans felt enthused to attend on Saturday, a significant proportion will seriously consider not attending the next few home games.
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I dont agree that Bigi is anything like Rose Grimshaw and McHugh (who I would agree are all defensive minded midfielders). He has a lot more football in him and is far less defensive minded. I take your point re Frear. He would be most effective in a 4-4-2 but we would be giving away the midfield to most teams in our league which is never good. We could go 4-5-1 but then you have one less target to hit in the box unless you can get your forward running midfielders up in support. Bit of a conundrum!
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For me, pretty much all our centre midfielders have the same qualities, perhaps with the exception of Cadden if you play him there, or Turnbull. Even Bigirimana is pretty similar to Rose, McHugh and Grimshaw in that he prefers a 20 yard sideways pass. One can argue that the midfield is not that much to blame as our tactics involves bypassing them. All our central defenders have similar qualities. Elliot Frear, offers something different, but where does he fit in our 352 system. Maybe time for us to step away from the 352 in order to try and get the best out of the players we have..?
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That back 3 is distinctly lacking in pace
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Id like to see what Bigi and Gorrin would be like playing together. I think its incredibly unfair to chuck one of them into our current set up and expect them to be able to change things on their own. They need others to find space, run channels and make themselves available to take a pass. I lost count the number of times Bigi got the ball on Saturday and looked up to find nobody in front of him to pass to. Our movement off the ball was very poor and resulted in Bigi having to pass backwards, passes going astray or being dispossessed. Bowman and Tanner being fit would definitely improve this. Meantime Id like to see us set up: Carson Aldred McHugh Hartley Campbell Cadden Bigi Gorrin Tait Main Johnson If we need to chase a game we can bring Frear on for Tait or take Cadden off and put Tait back to the left. Against the better teams in the league we could drop one ball player for Rose or Grimshaw if required. I dont think we need major surgery. But a few tweaks here and there and deploying the right personnel for the tactics would help. Edited to say: I wouldnt discount playing Turnbull in such a set up but figure thats less likely to happen.
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I actually think Robbo is more interested in not getting beaten than winning and for this reason is also scared to take a chance on players. In the two cup runs last season we were a different team with them being one of games ( excluding the finals ) beating all premier league teams to get there. He signs all those players and either finds out they are guff or just hasn’t the bottle to play them. He needs to see by the favourites and start giving hungry guys a chance to prove themselves.
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I think we're playing one dimensional football. I don't think we need to - even with the current squad. What won't work is fielding players that can pass a ball and expect them to adapt to long balls down the channels. As for the defence, Tait, ATS and Johnson can all play full back, and Aldred, Hartley, McHugh, Maguire (and Mbulu) can all play centre. So while it may not be his preferred approach, there's no reason we can't play a back 4 in the short term.
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20 quid for a ticket to theTony Macaroni is pasta joke.
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I don't necessarily think any individual player in the squad isn't good enough. What I would say is that the squad is very one dimensional. Grimshaw, Rose, Gorrin, McHugh, Bigirimana, are these players that are capable at SPL level? Probably. Could you combine them into a serviceable SPL midfield? I'd argue not because none of them offers anything massively different. The same applies to the forward line we started on Saturday. Are both capable at this level? You could make a case that both have shown in the past that they are. As a pair, no. We're pinning our hopes on Johnson or Bowman. At least Bowman drags defenders around the pitch by running the channels better than Sammon and Main. Likewise with Saturday's back three. Obviously the sale of Kipré and Dunne's injury has forced our hand there but short of Mbulu proving a revelation, the limitations of the back three will be there for the first third of the season. Sadly the size of the squad doesn't allow for bringing in any players offering anything different. I suspect that the wage bill might be at breaking point.. For me, if we're pinning our hopes on Bowman, Johnson and a Tanner that hasn't played in six months to try and win us games, we're effectively crossing our fingers and hoping for the best...
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You lucky bugger Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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I'm just disappointed that, in all that we are set up to be stuffy and hard to beat, we seem to be really easy to beat. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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Oh come on Accies were awful, yes we were poor but let’s not talk up Accies as organised, we dominated posession, certainly first half and if we had a striker up front on Saturday anywhere near on form we would have taken all three points.
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I agree, we need these young guys playing. Maguire, Scott and Turnbull look great. Scott for me looks are far more polished striker that Danny Johnston. Time will tell though if Robison gives them a chance.
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