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You misread my point or I did not get it across well enough. The fact we made a profit is very welcome. But if arguably our income was inflated by £1.5m in the last financial period and our profit was less than a 1/3 of that it would suggest we are arguably overreaching. We could of course have invested more in the playing squad and stadium knowing that money was there or coming, I 100% believe we are doing incredibly well with transfers / league finishes but it will be difficult to sustain that each and every year.
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I was merely joshing Dave. Time was right for a change. In saying that Yodo was wanting SR gone a long long time ago. That was probably more my point.
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Iain I think most of us were guilty of that, if SR had stayed I am not sure if we would stay in the premiership, I think his time had come we thank him for that, but his transfer activities and some team selections this season is very questionable, I don’t think it’s coincidence that we have appeared to have improved with the same personnel, which makes you think if SR had the players on his side!!
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All of the 3rd finish cash will be in next years accounts, as will the Euro cash and Turnbull Transfer fee. And yes,it will be interesting how much of the £1m we got for Scott was paid up front. Also for next year, how the £2.5-£3m we got for Turnbull is split, as both deals could potentially be split over 2-3 years
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So the business model we said we'd develop where we tried to either sell on academy products or bring in free transfers and sell them for a fee, combined with success on the pitch is not impressive? I'm struggling to think of better ways to make a profit than developing players to sell and winning games.
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I still believe he overachieved and had one bad summer. He saved us from relegation, we had two cup finals, and he had us as high as third in the league, all while trying to rebuild every season. He brought in millions in transfer fees and the club dept was paid off. I’m really struggling to see how much more he could have done. Many games could have gone either way and I believe that given the transfer window he would have turned it around. However he had clearly had enough and that’s fine by me, a few on here wanted him out for years so are clearly happy. There is a different atmosphere but that’s not unusual with a new manager, let’s hope that continues. I obviously liked him, I thought he gave everything for the club, had that passion and clearly worked well with many players given they were often keen to return. Maybe he genuinely felt he had done as much as he could, and you’re correct that there is a lifespan for any manager at a club but I also wonder at times just what would make some of the fanbase happy under any manager, it seems to me at times that nothing is good enough, if we get to a final it’s a failure to lose to a club that has an individual player that cost more than our entire squad. If we finish third it’s a false position and we should not celebrate it because we were lucky the season ended early and we would obviously have lost every remaining game. I’ve always a glass half full guy, loved finishing third, loved the two cup runs, and loved taking many bigger clubs to the cleaners at times. I’ve nothing but admiration for the guy even though ( and this may come as a shock to some) he’s not my mate, I don’t worship him as a god, and never even met him in person.
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The man you hounded out of Fir Park..
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A positive result. However it would be interesting to see how much money from the Scott transfer is included ? That and how much of the extra money for finishing 3rd. Together that is almost an extra £1.5m that we would not get in a normal season unless of course we finish top 6 and sell a player for £1m. Most transfers are paid in instalments so hopefully we did not get all the Scott cash before May 2020. Otherwise that profit is not as impressive as it would seem. On the flipside we would have taken a hit of £150-£200k in crowds which would not happen in a normal season + bonuses for finishing 3rd etc. Still whilst it is being reported Killie are requiring £1m loan to get through this season we should be pleased at Turnbull sale and recent transfer dealings.
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Stephen who ?
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That was the clubs offer for this season's season tickets, that any game that you can't attend in person will be deducted from the cost of next season's season ticket. I don't see fans at any games this season so yes next season ticket would be free. I can see the club asking fans to pay for next year as well the same way they asked people not to take the offered partial refunds for season 19/20.
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I, like many I'm sure, am fully prepared to buy my season ticket again despite the offer of free games next season. I know it won't be possible for all and there are tough times ahead but I'm happy with what I got out of it this season under the circumstances.
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You can want someone you like to stay while seeing that leaving is the best option for both parties. Most football managers have a lifespan at a club and, while I don't think we'd have been relegated if he stayed, I think we just needed some fresh ideas. I wasn't desperate to see him go, but it's good to see a different energy at the club during the past couple of weeks. Maybe there is another way to inject that, but we certainly needed it.
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Burrows has stated they wanted him to stay. I think he had to go simply because he stated it was effecting his health. Other than that I would have been happy to see him stay on.
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I can see another positive cash flow year this year as well as we had strong season ticket sales and the Turnbull transfer. So I imagine accounts up to May 21 will be strong. May 22 is where I expect to see losses with season tickets for Season 21/22 being very poor since all the existing season ticket holders will have all this seasons games to use up next season.
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Still a bit early to tell really, but so far I don't feel like going sooner or later would've helped much either way. I don't think we'd have taken a point off Rangers at the weekend if he was still here, though.
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In the vast majority of cases, a manager "resigning" is just a professional and amicable way of sacking them.
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I think it was the United game that killed it. If we'd held on there it would have been the win we needed, a lift and some confidence. Conceding right at the death like that meant we had totally no confidence and there was no story to tell the player about a corner being turned. After that he had to go. Though if we won at United I don't think we'd have lost against Killie and Accies. A one point week could have been a 9 point week. That's fitba though.
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time will tell -if we stay up we've got it right. Feels very similar to McCalls time. A good guy who had lots of success only to run out of ideas on his final season. My overarching concern is had he not left - he would never have been pushed which doesn't fill me with confidence in those running the club.
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I don't think we'll change from the team that started against Rangers (maybe Lawless in for Seedorf) but would imagine we'll set up to impose ourselves a little bit more on Aberdeen. Given the injuries they currently have I don't think we'll be standing off and looking to defend the box like we did on Sunday.
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He probably left at the right time I think. It's a game of fine margins but if we'd held on for all 3 points against Dundee United and then won against Kilmarnock, we'd be in a much better position. Add to that the 6 points from the rearranged games we thought we were getting, and would be a point off of 5th. All ifs and buts, but the point being that we were not too far away from sitting pretty in the top half. I think he knew that we weren't far away from clicking, he just couldn't quite get us there. You could argue he should've left sooner to give his replacement a bit of time in the transfer window, but as we've come to realise with Kelly and Lawless it isn't really down to the manager who the club signs these days so that's probably not had too much of an impact on things.
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We're all wise in hindsight and we are where are but despite these caveats do we think that Robbo left at the right time? Should he have perhaps left earlier or should he have been persuaded to stay on and he departed too soon? Just curious after all the debate a few weeks ago before he left.
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