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3 times but 1 was a shot from way out which was more of the ` hail mary` variety, another by Boyd looked a misplaced header and the other so irrelevany I can barely remember . By contrast Livi cut through the Killie defence on several occassions. It was only down to Livi trying to walk the ball into the net that prevented them from winning 3 or 4 zilch. At the end the Killie fans looked a sorry bunch.

Hastie will either stay or go. No point losing sleep over it. The club has stated that it has made their best possible offer and it is on the table for him to consider. I believe them. The risk in “ pushing the boat out” to get his signature is twofold. Firstly, send up spending money we cannot afford and secondly, we upset and unsettle others who have already signed up for lesser amounts. Our offer has to be about more than just cash as that is an area we cannot compete on. We have to be seen to be offering a career development pathway that will improve them as players while with the club and allow them to make the move for bigger and better things when the time is right. David Turnbull must have seen it in that light so hopefully Jake Hastie will do likewise.

Ooft. A lot of panickers on here.

I reckon we're waiting to the run we're on comes to an end before we announce Hastie on a new deal. Run comes to an abrupt end. Sadness all round. Monday/ Tuesday, wee video of Hastie signing.

Turnbull and Hastie should have been signed up ages ago. They were the best players in a very good U20s team and for both of them to go into the last 6 months of their contracts without a renewal shows you how little interest we had in developing youth to first team level until very recently. I honestly believe both these players could have been heading out the club under slightly different circumstances at the end of the season (either being released or snapped up) and it's only the huge impact both these players have had, Turnbull, is the single individual most responsible for turning our season around almost 180 degrees, that has seen these players re-evaluated. Our attitude has been entirely reactive when we should have an inside scoop on how good these players are and prioritized keeping a hold of them. I mean, I knew Turnbull was a fantastic footballer last season watching half a dozen U20s matches and not that I'm claiming any special abilities. Some things are obvious and yet seemed to remain unnoticed. Of course now we are offering deals to other younger players, and I genuinely believe a number of other players from Craigan's Babes, can step up to first team level but this whole situation could have and should have been avoided. Hopefully we have seen the error of our ways and are taking a much more progressive path.

I agree. The C&A section should be kept to a minimum and with that template it can dominate the shirt too much . As the saying goes, less is more.