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Your question is one I always employ when analysing such decisions, the best/worst example of which in recent seasons was the penalty given against Kipre in the LC final. We would never have been given that one in a million years. Conversely, had Moult been a Celtic player, the weak claim for a penalty he made in that match for being impeded in the box may well have been given by a referee like Thomson. My thoughts on VAR are also as dark as yours. Our game is in a very poor state.

I'm not one for blaming referees when we lose but I have to say that the referee did get two of the big decisions in Saturday's game badly wrong. There was no infringement at Gallacher's goal and there was no contact between Carroll and the Ross County player to justify him receiving a second yellow card. For me, the test of such decisions is always to ask "if either of the OF had been in our position, would the referee have made the same decisions?". Experience over a long number of years has shown that the answer to that question is "no". Scotland does not have VAR and will never get VAR. The reason given for this by those who run our game is, that we cannot afford it. I do not accept that. I think the real reason is, that if it was introduced, the "edge/advantage" enjoyed by the OF clubs in refereeing decisions would be eliminated and that is not a desirable situation.

McKinstry v Hastie one played in the team, one didn't one went down south, one went to Rangers one got best wishes, one got abuse we are the fickle ones

Suspect the club knew that was coming, and why we brought in Mugabi as cover.

Sorry to hear about your dad- recognised him from the Cooper Stand. Glad you made it along- it sounds as though it's what he would have wanted and, as you say, the most typical Motherwell performance.

Behave yourself and stop talking dross