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  1. John Kennedy! Oh God, I hope not. John F Kennedy could do a better job. Look at how pish Celtic's defence have been for years and he was defensive coach there as well as Assistant Manager
    2 points
  2. We lost the two young players who may have come in and made a difference, McAleer?? who went Norwich and McKinstry who went to Leeds. We just cannot hang on to good youngsters. Maybe they would have been the Turnbull and Hastie of this season
    2 points
  3. I hope not,i wasn't overly impressed with Aaron's the first time around,we should get away from this bringing guys back that weren't great first time around,devante cole being the latest.
    2 points
  4. You get a say. If you want a seat on the Well Society board you can put yourself forward for nomination and thereafter one of the other boards until the point where the WS are represented on the club board if you are elected. You get an opportunity to every month or whatever it is to ask questions of the Well Society online and before Covid-19 had the opportunity to do it in person, as you did with the AGM every year. You get email every Friday from the Well Society with any items of note. To suggest fans don't get a say is incorrect.
    2 points
  5. I’ll try to answer some of Yorky’s here too. Perhaps signaling solely English clubs wasn’t correct of me. However, a very quick snapshot of livi or ICT would’ve also hinted that there were severe doubts regarding both Polworth and Lamie (more so the later). White has never played at the top level and Hastie had a purple patch with us before doing nothing for a full season. Basing our entire strategy on ‘punts’ has come home to roost like it was always going to with short contracts and loan deals serving as the base with no youth crop on the horizon. We’re a selling club, yes (like everyone bar about 10 clubs in Europe) but I’ve always maintained that our strategy should be a solid 6/7 senior pros with proven pedigree and experience at this level supplemented by the youth, both to secure our positioning and the procession line. At the moment, we have neither. I completely understand that we have to be prudent. Again I have no qualms over investing in training facilities or keeping cash reserves, but the reality is, we have reinvested nothing to note. Neither burrows or the board came forward following two of our largest player sales in our history with the space of 6 months and said “this is the plan”. I’ll repeat it again, we are fan owned, Thus the raison d’etre for us as a club should be maximum fan value which basically means the best possible product on the park. Neither myself or others who have purchased shares or contribute to the society do so because we feel that there will one day be a buyout and we will make a few quid or indeed, the bank balance is healthy, we just want the team to do well. We are not and have not been strategically acting to the core principals of fan ownership.
    2 points
  6. Have you proof we haven’t been interested? Realising value in the Scottish market has proved more difficult.
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  7. In what way have the board been caught napping? He resigned two days ago. You have absolutely no idea what discussions they've already had nor what plans are already in motion.
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  8. Is it any wonder that some of the players don't care for the club, and by extension, the paying fans? This is surely a consequence of the model that the club has adopted. Our biggest selling point seems to be that we can put them in the shop window so that they can further their careers. So, we have short-term contracts and loans. It has nothing to do with playing for the Jersey and wanting Motherwell to be successful. It is all about the individuals now, not the team. The guys that seem to care are those that have an affinity for the club; Campbell, Grimshaw and Watt. Campbell may have lost some of his mojo, but so would anyone after battling alone in midfield for so long.
    2 points
  9. Would never want to see McLeish anywhere near our club again. Talk about a manager wasting money on transfers, there is your man. A media darling whose reputation far outstripped his ability. Ruined a decent Motherwell team, and was heading the same way with Hibs. There was horror stories of player indiscipline at Rangers and yet he managed to maintain a good reputation in the Scottish game. His second spell as Scotland manager I think is a fair reflection of his capability. I would take his Aberdeen playing partner Strachan over McLeish any day of the week.
    2 points
  10. my mistake, didn’t mean £250K for 6 months, it was two different thoughts rolled into one post.
    1 point
  11. Those are certainly the positions that need filling and it won’t be easy. I still feel the timing of the change is dreadful, either go earlier or stay and bring in the players already identified. No idea what happens now with those players already well down the line signing wise but I’m struggling to see how the new manager has time to judge who he wants to stay, who he would like to go, and then recruit those he needs, that’s a job for the summer. A positive start would be a fit Carson, Carroll, and Donnelly which alone would make a difference. I still think though even a manager coming in that could install a level of organisation and lift confidence may be enough to tip it back in a positive direction anyway, there is enough quality in the squad that even a couple of decent signings could turn it around. We are a million miles away from being a lost cause that’s for sure, it’s going to take the right appointment and some hard work but it’s more than doable.
    1 point
  12. Pretty much sums it up for me. I'd add a creative midfielder that can score 9 or 10 a season, but those other 3 are a higher priority for January.
    1 point
  13. I'm sure most season ticket holders who were able to would gladly waive all those benefits if the money saved was used to improve the squad.
    1 point
  14. Grimshaw is the kind of player to have in the squad to cover for injury or suspension, can cover many positions but unlikely to hold one down long term. Good for a game at a time. I think I am suggesting utility reserve, happy to keep him around.
    1 point
  15. @Al B also on this one. Absolutely agree. Having a free for all ballot on members opinions would be a nightmare and is a non starter. It’s not really my point however. My point is that we / the club encourage subscription and membership on the basis that we are a fan owned club. Thus, membership and financial contribution is based on emotional attachment to the club which makes people put their hand in their pocket every month. If that is the model and you are aware of that at board level, there has to be a degree of transparency on the larger issues. Yes, we get newsletters etc. but in our circumstances, it without question has to go beyond that. @Andy_P I’m not advocating that we break the bank to go and sign players, all I’m suggesting is that you risk fans becoming disenfranchised and thus stopping long term contribution or dissuading further contributors if there isn’t a stated vision for the club. I’m absolutely supportive of the model and requirement of youth supplemented by senior pros who can guide on and off the pitch. Our model recently hasn’t been that however. We’ve ended up with a group of largely journeymen players who appear much at odds with our own business model (ie emotional investment in the club) and that risks having even bigger ramifications to the business model which is fragile on such few members. We will always loose our best players unless the Bahrain royal family decides North Lanarkshire is the place to be, but we have consistently pleadEd poverty when quick frankly it has become a nonsense. We know we have no external debt, we know that we budgeted 10th and finished 3rd, we know that we made a million euro from European competition and we know that 2020 transfer fees were touching close to 5 million gbp. Our model however has to be symbiotic, the fans give and the fans receive. At the present moment, that isn’t the case.
    1 point
  16. I would have thought that just the nature of football, a good crop come through at the same time then you often have a gap before it happens again. I take it the investment in youth has continued and not been cutback.
    1 point
  17. bringing through our own youngsters should be our go to position and we started that a few years back. What a great advert for youngsters to join us when they see the likes of Turnbull, Campbell, Hastie mk 1, Cadden ,Scott all come through. We've lost the momentum on the youngsters but it should always be at the heart of what we do. Shored up with some decent pro's (either perm or loans) from wherever we can find them (which could include European players not just UK
    1 point
  18. It still boggles my brain how misguided people are about the Well Society and the whole fan-owned thing. As an individual, we effectively subscribe to a donation scheme, that's it. If you think it entitles you to anything...information or otherwise...then you need a wee bit of a reality check. You own a part of the club in the same way that someones Mrs has a certificate that says she owns a star in the sky.
    1 point
  19. Wrong. Investing 1m is similar to what I also posted. That doesn’t necessarily mean spunking 1 m on fees, it means using a mil on a combination of fees and salary rather than using presumably having an even lower player budget than last season (at least I pray McGinley and Lamie aren’t earning anywhere near the same as Hartley and Tait). There has been absolutely no visible squad investment which considering we must’ve raked in about 5million in player sales during 2020 is a bit of a piss take for a fan owned club. short term contracts on punts from English lower leagues is exactly what has got us into this mess.
    1 point
  20. Aye there's been a couple of times recently where robinson alluded to certain players are unwilling to give there all and then lasley said something similar today.it sounds like there could be a few rather than maybe 2 or 3,that is definately a worry,hopefully we can get as of them out the door this month as possible.
    1 point
  21. Before today I would have said no to Wright but after today I think I'd say yes. You'd fancy him to at least keep us up and after that showing at NDP that might be the extent of our ambitions. You were looking for a reaction today and we got nothing. We are in BIG trouble.
    1 point
  22. Whoever comes in needs to be ruthless and a good man manager. They will also need to be given funds to make about 4/5 signings. Good quality loanees if necessary. Not an easy task.
    1 point
  23. I can't help but feel losing players like Tait and Hartley have been a bigger loss than we anticipated. It seems that their omission has left a hole in the team. We have nobody on the pitch to rally the troops and the team seems utterly devoid of passion. Tait was really good at putting in one of those hard challenges when the game needed it, the sort of challenge that added intensity and drive to games when we really needed it. Hartley was an average footballer, but clearly cared about the team and winning and that's what the side is lacking badly. He seemed like a good motivator. The only similar player left is Campbell, but his bite has disappeared and he generally seems like a shell of himself. I really don't think Gallagher has stepped up to the captaincy very well either, although a good player on his day, he just doesn't come across like a leader to me. The team is just utterly devoid of any drive and it's blatantly obvious.
    1 point
  24. I don’t think Martin Foyle is responsible for Lamie and White, but I assume he had a hand in McGinley, Mugabi, and Chapman. He’s also not responsible for most of the players we’ve made money from, so he needs to go, and we can replace him with some guy off Twitter.
    1 point
  25. We're all wise in hindsight, but looking back we should have parted company with Robinson some weeks ago, as he's left us in some mess. Had we done so we could have had a new man in place, before the window opened. As it is we have to get the right man but he has to be in place within a fortnight I'd say, to allow him some breathing space to make personnel changes. I do feel for Las as he had limited scope to change things today, but on the evidence of this afternoon he hasn't been able to make any positive noticeable difference. I'm pretty certain the recruitment process will already be underway and we're lucky to have seen what he can and cannot do in game 1.
    1 point
  26. If they're that infatuated maybe we can convince them to take White and Lamie too
    1 point
  27. Rather have Stephen McManus if we look at Celtic. Knows the Club, is a winner and gaining a good rep as a coach. Anybody but the media loved old guard that just do the rounds. A rebuild is required and he could be the man to do it. And he does not stand for any crap from the players. Time to be forward thinking and appoint somebody to move us forward.
    -1 points
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