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A man who has made a career out of the game. You are a greater authority because……

Liam Kelly signing for us permanently would be a bit of a coup, but the cynic in me thinks that this story is possibly bait from his agent to attract bigger fish. And I will also say that Trevor Carson, for us, has been class in every sense of the word. Quality both on and off the pitch and the model professional. If he is about to depart then I wish him nothing but the best. He has had dreadful luck with illness andinjuries and, as such, never got the life changing move that his performances deserved.

I seen carson could be going back to hartlepool,I'm sure he will be one of our highest earners and him moving on probably gives us a chance of getting kelly back permanently.i really hope we can pull this one off as we seen last season just how good he is and i would go as far as saying he could be the scotland number one in the not so distant future.

Bobby you just beat me to it.

I really hope that's true,that would be some bit of business by us.

jesus christ please please please no no no a couldnt listen to another 50 years of shite no offence but GTTF

There is a bigger gap between the teams in the SPL to anything in league one or two so it’s not a blanket comparison. In the SPL we have two Championship level teams and the others are anything from midtable league one to the top of league two. The average Motherwell team is no higher than league one.

On the topic of where the SPFL is in comparison with League One or Two down south, I once had a wee chat pre season with Ian Baraclough. I asked him where he thought we’d be if we were in the English leagues. His answer was along the lines of, “standard, mid to lower League One… budget, mid League Two”.

Spin spin spin Not really what was said but crack on with telling yourself and everyone else that your correct.

Yes

“Played at our level” LOL Van Veen played for Alexander in League 1 Woolery has played League 1 and 2 What exactly is “our level” if it is not comparably somewhere between those 2 divisions?

renewed my season ticket on the back of that signing. Excellent stuff. Can't wait for the new season now