GazzyB

This is a HUGE 3 points. GET IN!!

YYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2nd place here we come!!

You at the game Geedub mate?

JAMIE MURPHY!!!!!!

Sounds like a great start. Humphrey's ripping the pish! Motherwell corner...

Getting right excited at this game. Hoping to fuck we can get another win!!

Agreed, 500k plus a wee bit more for appearances, sell on clause etc would be not so bad!

Well they're obviously wrong!!

The fact that Craig Brown used to be manager for Scotland should have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not players get called up for international duty. When asked the question "do you think Reynolds should've been called up?", he is ALWAYS going to say yes, whether he believes that or not. I'm not for one second saying he's lying, I'm saying that Reynolds shouldn't be in the Scotland squad 'coz Craig Brown said so'. Stephen McManus, Gary Caldwell, Christophe Berra, Stephen Caldwell, Andy Webster, Lee Wilkie (probably more deserving of a call up). Why are they better than him? They just are. More experience, playing for better clubs in better competitions against better quality of players (for most of them). I don't understand what you find strange about it? The way you're saying it sounds like we should all be blindly supporting all of our players for all of their national teams. You have to remember as well, this discussion is more from a Scotland supporting point of view as opposed to a Motherwell POV (I know it's in the Club Chat section, but I'd say it's more through the eyes of a Scotland fan, because it's basically turned into a "who should play for Scotland" debate). As stated, I believe that as fans we should be realistic with our players' ability as opposed to blindly saying they're the bees knees. I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but it does kinda sound like that's what you're suggesting we do). I doubt that too, however the fact that he moved to Celtic and gained experience playing against Europe's elite and is now playing in one of the best league's in the world means that he has far more experience than Reynolds and would therefore cope better against the quality of Czech Republic players. As for the 2nd sentence here, I have to say, I completely disagree. I think Gary Caldwell is a great player. He's had a shocker or 2 for Scotland, but all in all, I genuinely believe he's a great player. See above. We may not like it, but if you play for a better team then you have experience playing against better players and are therefore perhaps in a better position to play against the Spanish, Czech etc players. I can't really disagree with this. Berra was lucky to get his cap, but since then he has established himself as a Premiership player, while Mark Reynolds is playing for Motherwell. I'd feel more comfortable with a defender who has proven himself as able to play against Rooney, Drogba etc than someone who does well against Kevin Kyle and Craig Dargo. I'd probably agree with this, however I think he's a pretty solid centre half and was deserving of a chance to prove himself at international level. Fuck me that took a while.

I agree with Frazzle. Welldel, are you saying that because I don't think Reynolds merits a cap I'm a "so called" supporter? It's not that I (or anyone else) think he's a BAD player, it's that I just don't feel he's good enough AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME to merit a Scotland cap. Webster, Caldwell & Berra (who all played) all play for better teams and are better players than Mark Reynolds (if that makes me a so-called supporter for having that opinion, then so be it).

The more I think about this game, the more confident I am that we win. Changing my prediction, 1-0 to us, Murphy to score!

Not a whole lot going on at work today, so I thought I'd have a look at the pre-split run-in. Despite the fact we're on a really good run the now, the run in is quite tricky. Away to St Johnstone & St Mirren, followed by 2 big games at home to Hearts and then away to Dundee Utd, home to Falkirk and then away at Parkhead. If I was pushing it without being ridiculous I'd say 4 points from the next 2 games, followed by a draw against Hearts and then again against Dundee Utd, before beating Falkirk and losing at Parkhead. That'd see us go into the split on 50 points. From a slightly more realistic point of view I'd say we'll draw the next 3 games, get beaten by Dundee Utd, beat Falkirk and lose to celtic, leaving us on 47 points. I think Hibs will draw with Kilie, lose to Hearts, draw with Dundee Utd, beat Falkirk, lose to Celtic and beat the Accies on the last day, meaning they go into the split on 52. Dundee Utd will beat Hearts, draw with Aberdeen, Hibs and us, beat St Johnstone and lose to Rangers, giving them the sum of 54 points. Hearts will lose against Utd, draw with us, beat Hibs, lose to Rangers and draw with St Mirren, giving them 42 points (although BBC has them played 27 games and only 5 more listed, so we'll budget them 1 more point and stick em down on 43). As you can see from the above Hearts have by far the hardest run in, and I think it'll be a 3 horsed race for 3rd and 4th place. Either way, I'm very confident we can get 4th place! Going by my logic, the table would look like this... 3) Dundee Utd - 54 4) Hibs - 52 5) Motherwell - 50 6) Hearts - 43

I would disagree. I don't think Reynolds is brilliant (like some folk do), and I don't think he is mentally overrated (like some folk do), I think he's somewhere in the middle. I think he's better than Kenneth, around about the same as Wilkie (despite the fact that they are completely different centre halves) and nowhere near as good as McManus & Caldwell. I know a lot of people don't rate McManus or Caldwell but I think they are both top defenders and streaks ahead of Reynolds. You've got to think about Berra, Webster, the other Caldwell etc who are all playing at a much higher level than Mark Reynolds, who all have more international experience and who have all played for Scotland already. Reynolds could one day be international class. But I think playing for Motherwell week in, week out against shite like Kevin Kyle & Kenny Deuchar isn't going to get him there. If he were to leave us for the Championship and PROVE himself at a higher level, then I think he could be a Scotland player. As for Hammell, I'm not so sure he's as good as Fox, Wallace etc. I agree that Danny Fox isn't all that good, but there must be a reason he's playing Premiership football.

Yes, or it would've gone in.

NWF I think your argument was bad enough but there was fuck all wrong with Psycho's argument regarding Phil O'Donnell. Disgusting? You're having a tin bath; if a difference in opinion is classed as "disgusting" then we have a long way to go!

In the same boat, seriously considering making the trip down for this one! You've predicted a Craigan goal every game for about 8 weeks now 0-0 written all over it methinks!

I'd agree with that. Don't get me wrong he was a good player for us, but I always thought he was a bit overrated by some of our support. Was a real shame that he was rushed back from injury (pretty sure not once but twice?) and was never the same player for us again.

I think spending £300,000ish on a new pitch isn't really doing it in a half measure or to the minimum requirement. It's been said before that we've had a really cold winter and that it'd take a year before we see the true potential of the pitch. When you combine these factors it points to a poor playing surface for the first year. Aye it's a bit of a shiter at the moment but comments like the one I've bolded are, in my opinion, uninformed and unneccessary. Don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming to be "in the know", but saying that it has been done to the minimum requirements just because it's not as good as we'd hoped for doesn't help. I'd also be curious to see a list of all the other things that Motherwell do that is done in "half measure" or to the "minimum requirement"?

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This has 0-0 written all over it!

With Aberdeen & Dundee Utd both behind, it's a chance for us to gain some ground.

Hibs have a man sent off! Liam Miller's off..... O'Brien...... yellow carded!

The fucked up thing is I actually did look all the way up the page before posting

Juke not even on the bench? Injured?