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    2019-20 League Cup

    Not anything less than I'd expect 3 games into the season, cup game playing against a side from a city with 500,000 inhabitants. As for Melvin's comments. Too soon to be that pessimistic we played a league winners with a team pretty much settled and adapted to the pace of our game. We played the team with the 4th best home record in the top flight last season. Our starting line up is pretty much 4 players who were not up to speed and having to build stamina and fitness quickly and that will come with time.
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    2019/2020 Game 2: Celtic (H) August 10th 12pm Kick off

    I’ve always wondered why when playing domestically Scottish teams have a franettic style of play that we claim foreigners struggle to adapt to the pace. However when Scottish teams go abroad you’d think they’d continue that but they don’t
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    2019/2020 Game 2: Celtic (H) August 10th 12pm Kick off

    God, many have short memories on here. After our early dealings and the first few players who came in, the chat on here was "more midfielders?" now it's "awww they're all pish". We've just played the champions who despite the general feeling in all Scottish football that appointing Lennon was a step back for them, they are still a juggernaut. In every position they have a better, faster, more well rounded player except for a few exceptions, Bain was equally at error as Gillespie today and Boli is doing well to hold down a starting place with them. If Long's softish penalty claim was upheld then it becomes a different match. Ironically only a few yards away from where McGregor conned a last minute spot kick 2 years ago to high 5's from his team mates. But I've always said I don't think a referee goes out to be biased but deep down in their subconscious they know they will run into 20x more OF fans per week than those of everyone else. Simple truth is Robinson still doesn't know his strongest starting 11. But in his defence professional footballers should be hitting the ground running and I do roll my eyes when I hear or read comments about it takes time to gel and all that nonsense. Celtic had 5 shots on target and 5 goals, that's clinical. So far we played the team with the 4th best record at home and champions on our own turf and have 1 point. Armed with those facts many wouldn't and hindsight maybe a point isn't so bad. What is bad is other than 30 minutes or so there's been 2.5 hours of malaise and misfiring. Many will not extend a chronic start till Christmas then a purple patch beyond like last season. Issues need addressed with planning, tactics both before a game and during, adaptation and players taking responsibility for their actions and shortcomings.
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    New disabled facilities

    Disabled fans now seemingly have as many places to take a dump as the whole East Stand. Looks swish right enough
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    Livingston vs Motherwell 03/08/2019

    It also wasn't exactly clever. I've just watched it back slowed down and from different angles, it was misjudged and dangerous. If you look back to my original post you see I agree with you on the 2 game ban though.
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    Livingston vs Motherwell 03/08/2019

    Correct I wasn't, the 92nd minute makes his challenge even more unbelievably stupid
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    Livingston vs Motherwell 03/08/2019

    Wasn't it reported that the match delegate (in a suit in the stand) filed a report. In this case he/she probably thought the yellow was not fitting and conveyed that to the SFA. Upon looking at it we were fortunate to have Carroll finish the game, it was reckless and unnecessary. 11 v 10 on that pitch would have meant all hands to the pumps for us to walk away with a draw. We were fortunate to avoid it on the day and probably right to get it today. However as he wasn't elevated to a red card the 2 game ban seems harsh but still what we'd expect if he did walk on Saturday and he'd also have the extra disciplinary points. I'm all for it as long as its transparent, and consistent and fair. This sort of thing can only target player and I suspect manager activity. Therefore it will be interesting to see if any Rangers player is charged for their role after their winner. This next bit is distinct from the above and its important on here that distinction is made. Celtic's penchant for political statements, Rangers recently for pitch invasions and vandalism and both the Old Firm clinging onto sectarianism and to a lesser degree their diet versions in Edinburgh and Killie come under the remit of the SPFL. When are we eventually going to see some censure for their behaviour? Points deductions, fitting rather than paltry fines, closed doors games, etc? I'd advocate the referee ceasing play at the first utterance of the sash or any Republican glorifying and matching the players off the park. Every minute is a point deduction ......
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    2019-20 Rebuild

    Talking of limits, any chance you can limit your output on here?
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    2019-20 Rebuild

    Erm ... because he's on a one year deal Sparky, we've seen him play 180 minutes or so of competitive action for us and this is your solution. Stand aside Jose Mourinho we have a new master tactician in our midst.
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    Livingston vs Motherwell 03/08/2019

    http://www.hesgoal.com/news/50744/Livingston_vs_Motherwell.html?fbclid=IwAR2VmN2Ml4ukjnd5R4x9AFxNcVp-bzsEOESew_KtpEIL_Am-S-4fZxKD2-s
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    Livingston vs Motherwell 03/08/2019

    I must be doing something wrong because both those streams don't have a pook on them for me
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    Predictions for the Season 2019/20

    Who's the Nostradamus/Warren Buffet and who's the Michael Fish/Alan Hansen "you'll never win anything with kids" c.1995 of this forum. I'll start the ball rolling: What we've seen so far suggests there's been a good foundation made and players will only gel as time goes on. I think we'll replace Killie in the top half of the table even with their plastic pitch giving them 10-14 points a season. Hibs may falter too however have the war chest to go out at the 11th hour and buy class. Maybe St. Johnstone will be in the mix too if they get Stevie May and he rekindles his old form in blue League position 4th, however may hinge on what sort of business Hearts and Aberdeen do. We'll get Europa league on last weekend Scott to start all games till Parkhead Ilic to slowly move as the season progresses from the wing to take on the Turnbull role Huyton to be used deeper to allow Seedorf to continue as an out and out winger Campbell solid as always and chips in with 4 goals Gallagher to win player of the season One of our strikers will get 18 minimum We'll score first more and not chase games as much. Robinson will have a plan B, C and D this season and will also mix it up come October and the end of the first round of matches Grimmy will run 70 yards, skip 3 tackles and bury it. Yellow card for jumping into the Bois section Happy to be proved wrong about: Turnbull to return early, seems like he's never been away but slight lack of focus due to all the press and social media b/s Celtic will sniff in January as expected, hoping his form till then secures more English interest
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    2019-20 Rebuild

    I yet again read comments about our players after what are competitive friendlies minus the 10 substitutions that: Donnelly is now a world beater Long is suddenly an imposter and Scott who should be sent down the leagues last week to serve an apprenticeship can now stay When I throw in 12 months ago Bigirimana being touted as the key to our season after putting his foot on the ball in the Cup Final and People looking back on Gorrin as they key member of our squad that's currently missing after only starting what? .... 16 games? Add in various negative comments until mid-October after they signed for both Moult and Higdon about their suitability And of course the usual suspects focusing on where a player has came from rather than what they bring Can we all just chill the fuck out!
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    2019-20 League Cup

    100% about Scott. Add into the mix Cole, Long, Manzinga with possibly Tanner, Ilic and Hylton who can act in a forward role (by which I mean not isolated). Surely a club of our size and budgetary constraints can't afford to supplement the forward players much more than we already have.
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    2019-20 Rebuild

    Idea for Provan, a pastiche of the Bazinga catchphrase used by Sheldon Cooper, the colours are already halfway there. UBH, what should my cut be?
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    Former Motherwell Fc Players Thread

    Spelling and grammar mistakes on an online forum, the natural habitat refuge of the arseholes among us
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    2019-20 League Cup

    We already know what Hylton and Seedorf are capable of. The experimentation I suggested was not to combat Dumbarton it was to explore the dynamic and interaction of that set up among the current squad and rotate players in what was essentially a fitness/sharpness builder. As it turned out the pitch stifled rapid wing play and their set up stifled finding openings. This is something we will face this season on a few occasions. As I said on another thread, it was felt certainly at times throughout 2018 that Robinson hadn't learned to mix things up every cycle of matches and tended not to have anything beyond a Plan C. I do think that has changed significantly. Seeing a front 2 partnership work, or a standard 442 or even a squinty one.
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    Former Motherwell Fc Players Thread

    Sorry Andy, not with you on this one. Would you be saying the same if in theory Turnbull went to Celtic via LA Galaxy in 2 years time? Cutting us out of £6m? We'd have had just over 2 years of his first team involvement by then.
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    Former Motherwell Fc Players Thread

    This! Rightly self interrogation of our own past dealings means we have exploited the system, for me that was clever and something we have to do. We play in a league exploited by two Glasgow clubs and in a country exploited in a paltry TV deal and we have to make hay while the sun is shining, whenever or where ever we are able. It's nice to be nice but being ruthless is also a required at times. I'm sure Robinson will mention turning the screw or being ruthless in at least 10 pressers this season. If its good enough and what we expect on the park then it should be what we expect of the running of the club too. The key difference in the past it was a player, Club A and Club B (us). It was up to Club A to know the rules and not let them be used against them. We wised up and offered players like Hastie and Erwin contracts within a few months of the end date to ensure compensation. Not to do so meant we forfeit or get diminished returns. I imagine very few clubs make this omission now. What we have here is MFC, a player, Oxford and Columbus. With Columbus doing the bidding of Oxford without any discernible reward other than the gratitude of Oxford. The gain is Oxford bypass fees that mean they would potentially have to limit his wages or may not be able to afford his services. What makes it stick in the craw is he has been muted to be a target of Oxford for a good few weeks with rumours of him training with them (can anyone confirm this). All hypothetical but as for the incentive, maybe it was muted Cadden could expect a higher weekly wage due to doing this. £1,000 a week extra is £50k a year and on a 4 year deal is a £200k saving on what we may expect in compensation. The thought of Cadden's representative high 5'ing and feeling like he's some master tactician with whoever from either club after some dirty dealing, talking via Skype scheming how to fuck Motherwell gives me the rage.
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    2019-20 League Cup

    Calm yer jets there sparky, look at the title of the thread and you’ll have your answer. As for the midfield and wingers, yes undoubtedly, but I know what they are capable of already, a game against Dumbarton shoud be for experimentation in my opinion. There’s a good chance we may need to have a battling 2 banks of ball winners when facing Rangers or Celtic, I’d rather have that middle 4 than seedorf who while rapid looks like he’d blow over in a strong wind.
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    Predictions for the Season 2019/20

    It's weird this time last year despite the two cup finals the season before I didn't have the level of optimism I do now. When I think of every position I think there are 2-3 capable players. Of course I may have a few of the youth players out of position or not giving them credit for others they have performed well at just due to lack of exposure. Ilic or Hylton may be able to play right winger in addition to Seedorf, again I've just not seen enough to verify. If anyone wants to add anything or make suggestions please do, I don't see enough reserve games to fully comment. ---------------------------------- Carson/Gillespie ----------------------------------- Tait/Grimshaw ----- Hartley/Gallagher/Dunne ----- Carroll/Tait/Livingston --------------------------------- Donnelly/Maguire ---------------------------------- -------------- Sloth/Polworth/Campbell/Semple/Cornelius -------------------- ------------------------------- Turnbull/Ilic/Tanner ---------------------------------- ---- Seedorf -------------------------------------------------------- Ilic/Hylton ----- ----------------------- Tanner/Cole/Scott/Johnson/Long ------------------------- It's a decent showing all round and many teams will be worrying how to combat us.
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    2019-20 League Cup

    This is the set I'd I'd really like to see, Grimmy and Tait allowed to move forward and shore up midfield when attacking, Campbell to do the dirty work and Sloth to spray the passes. Then that forward line ..... look at the pace. A few players dropped that don't justify it but it's all about seeing what's what at this early stage. Subs I'd make would be Carroll on for Grimmy and switch sides with Tait, Seedorf for Hylton and maybe Polworth or Maguire on for Sloth --------------------- Carson ------------------- ----- Hartley --- Gallagher --- Dunne ----- Grimshaw ------------------------------- Tait -------------- Sloth ---- Campbell ----------- ---- Seedorf ------------------------- Ilic ----- ---------------------- Cole ---------------------- Available: Gillespie Maguire Livingston Polworth Carroll Donnelly Hylton Long Johnson Scott Semple + Not to overlook Turnbull and Tanner to hopefully return to how we remember them. Purely because I think we need to have more than one formation. Standard 4-4-2. If we're doing well and not governed by injuries I'd like to see the subs as Hartley and Gallagher, by all accounts two strong characters, see if they can gel together. Mcguire on for Polworth and I'd like to see Johnson play with a target man. --------------------- Carson ------------------- Grimshaw - Hartley - Dunne - Livingston Sloth ---- Campbell ---- Polworth ---- Illic ------------- Johnson ---- Scott --------------
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    2019-20 Rebuild

    OK Campbell then
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    Predictions for the Season 2019/20

    Forgot the cups, League cup semi, Scottish cup quarter, penalties, gutted Sportscene to continue with glaring errors and Thomson eventually agreeing with Stewart if he argues long enough A completely random object (chib made of an Asda trolley bar?) will end up being thrown onto a pitch and will need 3 days of blanket press coverage Both Rangers and Celtic fans will riot in Europe, Celtic getting another fine for Green Brigade antics
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    2019-20 Rebuild

    Getting back to the original point about sending him out for 6 months, I don't think we are there yet, he's already made a mark and can't recall anyone talking about sending Turnbull to the lower leagues in mid November, or how fortunate he was to have some veteran holding his hand. There's enough of our youth academy graduates who have been slowly introduced in the right way. Lack of composure on a few occasions aside, he still bagged a brace (albeit against woeful opposition) and will be looking to stake a place ahead of a loanee and a guy on a one year deal and a guy who Robinson doesn't fancy as a sole striker. Based on all of that, I think it is madness to send him to the Championship and for him to see merit in it. When Turnbull turned down Norwich many of us argued, well go down there and show they what you can do, have courage and confidence in your ability. I think the same should be the case now for Scott in the current Motherwell team.

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