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  1. I feel this is where Motherwell as a club lack a little. The likes of hearts, st Mirren etc seem pretty proactive in getting pre contracts tied up nice and early where as we don’t. 9/10 we are half way into a window with half a squad. It worked out very well when getting the likes of Declan Gallagher in early etc. Just think for us to progress as a club with financial constraints we have that it’s best to get out early and get they deals done before others, I totally understand a lot of players will want to wait until the summer as there may be better offers but clearly some players do go for it.

  2. 12 hours ago, JSR said:

    On josh fowler

    He scored 37 goals in 65 games and was top for assists too, I know it’s at a different level but he seems to know his way to goal.

    Very good player, that level is pretty under appreciated many of the teams in that league are more than capable of competing at league 1, obviously the likes of darvel showed they can compete against L1 and beat Aberdeen, a lot of very good players in the leagues, many players drop down for a good pay.

  3. 2 minutes ago, Onthefringes said:

    Sorry, to take this part post in isolation, at least keep things factual.

    Career choice and a stepping stone don’t fit the narrative for some.

    About how we shape the squad now. Paton not being a starter is for the naive thinkers.

    Fair to reserve judgement.

    No offence taken at all as I said I hope it works out for him and one day he comes back here a better player for Motherwell. However facts or not some murmurs were said about Dean not being a guaranteed starter hence that swayed his decision not saying that’s factual or not, in my post I said it as an example, obviously a reason a boyhood fan would leave the club when offered a new deal, again maybe not factual but could be down to money etc too.

     

    Regarding Paton I don’t see him being a starter, Spittal, Slattery and hopefully Goss re-signs so there’s a pretty strong middle 3 that will start most games unless better come in. 

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  4. I think people are getting over a bit hasty regarding our business here. Obika and Paton will most likely be decent squad players, the gaffer knows them and both done okay last season, Obika making a good impact for the team before his injury but everyone should know at this moment in time they won’t be starters.

     

    Regarding Dean, just another average player that kind of came through the youth system, he’s just another Carswell, Hetherington etc. Most likely a reason he wanted a new challenge (SK has told him he’s not guaranteed to start) so best of luck to him for trying a new adventure and hopefully works out for him but personally for me he’s just pretty average, he works hard but minimal effect on a game, never really stood out but he’s achieved a dream of playing for his club so he’s always got that. 
     

    It’s the same every season we aren’t everyone’s first choice but can expect things to pick up next week as we go on our pre season trip, most likely taking a few trialists. For the job SK did last season I think we all need to have a bit of trust and faith in him. Of course that’s difficult when he requires a CB, Casey (hopefully), RB, LB, 2CMs, 2 STs, someone capable of playing wide to change things up when not working.

  5. 3 hours ago, santheman said:

    I think with a proper pre season to get his fitness levels up to par and some professional coaching he could well do.

    Maybe the SPL is a bit of a stretch at this stage of his career but could certainly hold down a spot in a Championship team imo.

     

     

    As have said he’s been very good this season, only time will tell if he’ll hack it at this level still pretty young and not worse than we’ve had. 
     

    Stalled on plenty other offers from SPFL clubs at championship, L1 and obviously plenty teams lower as well as a chance at Dubai but he has a higher ceiling than lower leagues here and obviously fancies his chances to take the chance of a trial than a guaranteed contract.

  6. 5 hours ago, texanwellfan said:

    Be interesting to see who we get to replace KVV. 

    Highly doubt it’s to replace him but we’ve currently taken Josh Fowler on trial from Beith they won the WOS Premier and he scored 32 goals last season, only 21 years old. 

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  7. The Bois bring a very good atmosphere to matches 9/10 and without them it can be very dull and we are much better with them. The club can’t pick and choose when they support them, “how great is our group” as well as having a member of staff turn against them. 
     

    They don’t help themselves though with throwing objects on the pitch or other objects at players and they individuals should be dealt with in the correct manner.

    I don’t agree with rejecting tifos for our own club and letting opposition have one, or just giving names to the police without evidence. Few years back a tifo was agreed then the day before matchday I think they were told it couldn’t be used. With regards to things like flags so objects etc can’t be snuck in through them should be brought in before match day and left or set up. 
     

    Personally it’s very tit for tat between the group and the officer, if the group could stop their “fanny” behaviour and the officer stop acting a jobsworth all could be well. Best situation is a sit down between members of the group and a few club employees to come to an agreement best for the club.

  8. 28 minutes ago, Well-Made said:

    When Dundee can get a loan in from Brighton, you do wonder. Especially as we can't get from lower leagues

    St Mirren and Killie signed left backs on loan today from Southampton and Liverpool… 

    You’d have thought we would’ve asked spurs since we did play them in a friendly last month.

  9. I don’t think he’ll be here we’ve moved onto another target. I loved him when he was here and was brilliant we all know that. However he’s moved on to a team in the same league and hasn’t recreated that form he had with us. Risky signing but if a massive twist happened as much as I dislike him for how he left I’d back him if he proves me wrong, he’ll have to win over a majority of the fan base and wouldn’t go down to well with most imo. Be a bad mistake from the club at first definitely but it could work but it won’t happen I don’t think.

  10. 1 minute ago, David said:

    I'm not sure why you're still banging on about this "Alexander living out his fantasy" guff. That was addressed a while back.

    Here's a question for you, why should Tony Watt or any other player show loyalty to any club? All you need to do is read back through this thread to see how fans act when a player isn't performing. We show them zero loyalty, so I don't know why we should expect it in return.

    If you actually look at it, we got him for nothing, he provided a decent level of performance and goal return while he was here, signed not one but two contract extensions, then when he left we got money for him. 

    In short, he owed us absolutely nothing. He was paid to do a job, which is what he did. He then moved on when another employer offered him considerably more to do the same job.

    Agree in a sense but we are the ones who pay the wages. 
     

    Also striker from Fleetwood who I got told about seems to have come out in the press as Gerald garner.

  11. 29 minutes ago, star sail said:

    They still should not be beating Aberdeen. The problem for me is that Aberdeen did not go into the game with the correct mental attitude. You could apply the same argument to our defeat against Sligo. It is a lack of professionalism that seems to show itself time and again in Scotland and seems to be excused time and again.

    We seem more than happy at times to make excuses for the teams in the top division, the classic being ' it is too early in the season' when Scottish teams get dumped out of Europe in July by part time European minnows. 

    A team of tradesman, fisherman, bank managers and school teachers should never be beating a full time professional football team at any time of the year.

    To try and masquerade this post as an ins and Outs discussion ( sorry Melvin), would we sign any of those Darvel players for Motherwell? Probably not. 

    Of course. No way they should be beating Aberdeen. But their team could easily compete in league 1 if playing at that level every week so could a few others in lowland etc.

    They’ve stepped up there game and Aberdeen went in with the wrong attitude these surprises happen luckily it wasn’t us this time.

  12. 38 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

    No it's not, yes there are a few of the Darvel team that have played for league teams but they are part time and at Darvel because they were not good enough to play at a higher level and make a living solely as a pro footballer the WOS premier league is their level.

    Obviously don’t know much about the lower league game then. Just as an example Darvels right back was in league 2 team of the season last season and very easily could’ve steeped up the ladder. They throw silly money at it but create a good atmosphere with good characters. The players you claim “aren’t good enough for a higher level” some of them dropped down to Darvel from the likes of Falkirk, Ayr, East Fife due to money there manager owns Black Rooster and their chairman has Killie Pie, QTS are massive sponsors too.

    As has been seen and proven by the likes of Cove and Kelty these teams down in the lower leagues can put compete and out pay other clubs above them. So could many more clubs, however before slating Darvel do a bit of research, they also played brilliantly and deserved the win.
     

     

  13. 3 minutes ago, Onthefringes said:

    Like I say, revisionism. Think the misty eyed would’ve seen a transfer fee akin to the player they thought we had. The club nurtured in a different way, marketed the player and should realise an additional stream from his progress. The players’ character and worth ethic embellish the talent.

    Onto our player. The reason? Don’t know who you’ve been talking to, it certainly doesn’t align with those that matter.

    Has it ever occurred to you that he’s developed because he’s followed instructions to the letter? Gametime as mentioned won’t define him. Take the shackles off, get the balance right and there’s more chance it’ll pay dividends.

    Personally think it’s a forlorn hope, certainly as someone isn’t practising what he preached.

    Can’t a player when on the park grab the game by the scruff of the neck and maybe show the manager he’s capable of more? There’s been little incline to me even if as you say the shackles taken off that it will change much of Dean or our teams play with regards to how they chose to use him. This is from seeing him playing back at hibs from u 16s games and for Motherwell at u18s upwards

  14. 1 hour ago, Onthefringes said:

    Revisionism at its fans’ forum finest. 100x the player? Of course he had dips in form, it’s the most natural thing in young footballer’s making their way in the game - the difference being he was afforded the opportunity to make these mistakes and learn from them in sustained gametime which many feel could be replicated with others.

    I’ll go on the word of those who’ve actively been involved in his development. Nothing cryptic or ITK before you start, all carried out in public.

    Lack of gametime won’t define him as a player. Hammell & the kid in question will soon realise there’s a bigger world out there than Motherwell.

    Again I’ll say I can’t recall watching Campbell have a dip in form, perhaps an odd poor game here or there but not like you are alluding, they poor games most likely related to the teams overall performance. 
     

    I agree with you completely with what I’ve heard regarding Dean’s situation he’s not been developed properly by ourselves or even Hibs for that matter, for ourselves it was partially due to the covid season interruption and the inability to give him game time when needed which was here or elsewhere on loan. However the reason he’s not been afforded ‘mistakes’ is because when he has been given a chance he’s never really stood out as such, just a ‘decent young player’ who can do a job if required. Nice passer of the ball and works hard just lacking that extra that’s needed to breakthrough, that could be winning and crunching tackles with well established players like campbell, ability to beat men for ease or score from 30 yards like Turnbull. Once again an okay player that could definitely develop if let to but so far not done too much massive 6 months for him and hopefully can be seen to his best effect.

  15. 1 hour ago, pretzel said:

    Apparently that was the reasoning for staying in Scotland with Celtic originally. I don't think it would do any harm to ask the question but I think we would be more likely to get someone that rarely features such as Welsh or Montgomery (obv away to St Johnstone). 

    It's going to be an interesting few weeks.

    I’d happily take Welsh right now until the end of the season.

  16. 3 hours ago, Onthefringes said:

    And how do you know Dean hasn’t got a great engine? Point being made is getting him in the team regularly would be a start. Dress it up how you like, Allan Campbell had lengthy dips in form -persevered and tolerated mistakes when they inevitably happened - Dean hasn't really had the same opportunity, so plenty are unsure how good he is or could be.

    I don’t think Dean has showed any level of ability similar to Allan Campbell. As soon as Allan Campbell came into the team he had something special about him and 100x the player as well I don’t recall him having lengthy dips in form. That doesn’t mean I think Dean is a bad player I think he’s a good rotation player and at the moment I’d have him in the team over others, sitting just in front of the defence as someone else has mentioned. I do disagree that someone else said about him not having an engine that’s probably his best asset is how hard he works but if he had that extra dig he’d be much better, not technically the greatest but given a run of games he could do something but for me he’s another Carswell/ Hetherington but hope to be proven wrong as he’s one of us.

  17. 18 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

    So who else would play left back then if Penney is away? I don't think it would be fair playing young Johnston there , let him play on his natural side. I was only looking at our current squad and what options were for left back 

    We lose our first team left back. Okay let’s not go out and replace him with the wages freed up with a competent left back let’s do what we’ve done so far and let back up players take starting spots which have gotten us into this mess. 
     

    On Penney he’s been outstanding best left back we’ve had actually since hammell hung up the boots. Maybe with an exception of his last 2 games but playing next to lamie will make anyone look poor.

  18. 4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

    If Penney away then you play experience guy at left back, SOD or mcginn,. Jeez not Lamie, Robbo hung him out to dry playing there 

    SOD or McGinn that have been part of the problem and rotten but yeah let’s play them on their weak side. This isn’t a time to play players in positions that could fit in or do a job get in the correct players.

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