Yorkyred
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6 minutes ago, Fairhill said:
It doesn't matter who the manager is, the tone here is that the players are useless, so at this late date in January, how will that help any manager, Hammell or not?. We have a structural management problem, and with Burrows going it will now clearly lie with the board and the society. The villains are those who signed all the dross you all hate, so the issue is more fundamental than the manager.
It absolutely does matter who the manager is as shown in the past when we’ve changed managers. Hammel has signed how many players now ? Are we any better ? This simply can’t continue, the club is sleepwalking into relegation.
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Goodwin will be sacked after today, what’s the betting he replaces Hammell ?
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Just now, El Grew said:
We’re utterly hopeless but the sad fact is St. Mirren are not really much better.
Don’t want to be a doom monger but I’m afraid the club had better begin to prepare for Championship football next season.
If we don’t win this we need to change the manager.
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1 hour ago, wellsince75 said:
I've got loads of confidence in Hammys ability to see the issue and know the positions he needs to solve.
Previous managers post match comments often led me wondering if I'd been watching the same game. Although it's been dire with mistakes I've always felt Hammy's summary of games was akin to many of us , general punters.
The key is can he solve the issues, here's hoping he can. 3 points today would get some off his back.I honestly admire your confidence, I see nothing to suggest it’s justified if I’m being honest.
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1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said:
Quietly pleased with the business done so far and with Hammy stating we are still looking to do more it could turn out to have been quite a productive window for us.
At the very least the moves that have already happened proves that maybe, just maybe, Hammy does know what he is doing, does know where the problems in the team lie, and has been actively trying to fix them.
Of course, we still need to translate that into results, but it would be nice if the manager and the team could grab a few wins and prove a few people wrong.......
I will personally be delighted if he proves me wrong, I don’t want championship football.
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8 minutes ago, Robbos boy said:
Whoever game McGuire a 2 year extension needs firing, oops he did. Has been at Motherwell far to long, doesn't have a position, wether it be defensive or midfield. As I said his marking at the throw in which led to Ross County's equaliser was schoolboy. Sorry Barry just not good enough for the Premier league.
He’s not quite at the premiership level I’m afraid.
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9 minutes ago, pretzel said:
Yeah, I thought he was a decent player at this level, I think the general consensus with the St Mirren support was that he wasn't scoring enough goals but surely Curtis Main would fall under the same bracket. Brophy has been sent out on loan to Ross County until the end of the season, I know it might change but it doesn't seem like Roy MacGregor is digging deep this January as we usually get the County renaissance from this point, I think the other addition they made was another loan from the league, Kennah for Hibs.
I’d not realised the goals had dried up but he has had injuries. He’s certainly a player that I remember thinking in the past could do a job for us.
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4 hours ago, pretzel said:
Despite a strong start to the season for St Midden they're now going through a blip and the last ten league games they have played almost mirrors our form. Robinson always seemed to enjoy great wee runs of form with us then would go off the rails for a bit, let's just hope we aren't as generous as we were with Hibs. Thankfully they have no Bobby Madden to bail them out and Eamonn Brophy who seemed to score a few last season. I think the line up will likely be the same as Arbroath.
I always thought Brophy was a decent player, quite surprised to see him move.
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12 minutes ago, MJC said:
Full time: Darvel 1 Aberdeen 0 😂
Utter humiliation for the Dons!
Goodwin will be gone after that and within a short period of time linked with another premiership club.
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Pretty good draw.
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2-1 to the home team.
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55 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:
Going down I'd say are County because they're a really poor side and Killie because Lafferty's a fud.
At this point there appears to be little between the teams at the bottom, our form is as poor as anyones.
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It’s a win which was important.
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At least we’re winning, confidence and all that.
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Just now, David said:
Exactly.
What I was commenting on was the notion that signing those players on those contracts was "Alexander's arrogant fantasy." It wasn't.
Alexander certainly was at fault for many things, but he most likely was working within a transfer policy and strategy determined by the higher ups at the club. And it was a policy the vast majority of us saw as sensible.
It was
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A 4-0 Motherwell win today.
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15 hours ago, David said:
That's not true, of course.
The club as a whole decided to move forward with a long-term strategy when it came to signing certain players. It just hasn't paid off, which means it's very easy for people like you to come along after the fact and point out the errors.
Go and read the transfer thread when we signed Shields. The overwhelming opinion was that signing a 24 year old Scottish striker who had scored 11 goals in the Championship the season before was a decent bit of business.
It was exactly the type of signing many were asking for, a young, pretty highly rated player from the championship. Sadly it’s just not quite worked out, not that he’s a hopeless player, he’s not, it’s just you need something else apart from just workrate.
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42 minutes ago, wellfan said:
As I've said elsewhere, the club is now financially crippled because they let Alexander live his arrogant fantasy.
Before that the argument was we had no consistency and were having to change the squad every season. Longer contracts are fine if it’s the right players that could command a transfer fee down the line.
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1 hour ago, fizoxy said:
Nathan McGinley says hello.
And Jake, or is he not fit ?
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12 minutes ago, wellfan said:
Penney seems to have had his head turned by something since the turn of the year. He was excellent until then.
I think it’s probably more the general regression of the team, he’s not the only one.
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53 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:
Well I mentioned the confidence factor but as usual you have us at 'already or very near rock bottom' when we've lost 2 out of the last 6 matches with 7 goals scored. I think it can get worse than that. Say, St. Johnstone who are on the worst run this season with 5 losses on the trot and an away trip to Rangers coming up.
I certainly don't want us to lose to Arbroath but the context of my comment was the condition, mentioned by some, that Hammell gets fired if we don't win.
I think the argument a while ago was yes a poor run but look at the teams we’ve played, let’s judge him when we have a run of games against clubs we are on the same level with, this was a very fair point. We have however now had a run of games against these teams and not won one of them. We’ve had one win since last October.
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12 minutes ago, David said:
What I enjoy reading is the expert opinions on who the manager should have picked and the formation he should have used after the game is played.
The number of professional football people who are paid well and actually make a living from the game who seemingly "know fuck all" compared to Joe Bloggs who has never played or managed at a similar level is astounding really, isn't it?
Alexander got the old tombola patter for constantly changing the team. Hammell gets pelters for sticking with the same players. The club gets questioned for not signing anyone, then gets grief for signing players who aren't good enough.
And I see we're still proclaiming players who don't get picked as the answer to all our problems.
We picked up an Irish lad who's 23 years old and has around 50 senior games to his name, most of which have come in the League of Ireland in 2022. Before that he played a handful of games in the sixth & seventh tier of English football.
On top of that, he played the Irish summer league season that ended in October, and hasn't played a competitive game since, so he's basically coming in with zero pre-season at all. Yet because Hammell isn't dropping one of two experienced central defenders and chucking in an inexperienced youngster who most likely isn't match-fit there's either "something not right" or he doesn't know what he's doing.
Here's the truth as I see it - We operate at a level in the game that dictates we buy players who are nowhere near being considered top class.
We offer relatively low wages, and the opportunity to play in a footballing backwater, but can offer a platform for good players to move on to bigger things. We're on a par with many lower league sides down south.
Every signing we make is pretty much a gamble with few notable exceptions.
Some seasons those gambles pay off and we do well. Some seasons they don't. We currently have a team that simply isn't very good. The question is, is there two other sides who are worse over a league season?
It may be that the answer is no, and it's simply our time to face the drop. In all honesty, we've done amazing considering our fanbase and budget over the past couple of decades. When did we last go down? 38 years ago or something?
Look at the teams who've been relegated since. We have no divine right to stay up. Us being where we are isn't a disgrace. Our recent accomplishments has only served to spoil our fans I think, to some degree.
I should add before people jump on this, I'm not saying I'm happy to see us relegated, or saying it's acceptable. I'm not. I'd be gutted, and the players should see it as being unacceptable. All I'm saying is, it isn't insane to think it could happen to us. It wouldn't send shockwaves around world football.
I could understand the furore if we had the squad Dundee United had. Mulgrew, Fletcher, Middleton, Watt etc. But we don't. We don't have that kind of budget.
We have a squad similar to that of Ross County, Kilmarnock, St Johnstone, St Mirren etc. Personally, I think it's going to be between ourselves and Killie to see who takes the playoff spot. I think County will finish bottom.
I honestly agree with that, my opinion is simply if no improvement are being made and we have a win percentage this low, low enough that if it continues it’s highly likely we will be relegated do we stick or twist. On this occasion and from what I’m witnessing I think we need to take a punt on someone else. But nothing is guaranteed regardless of what we do.
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Second bottom and three wins all season while conceding a stack of goals, even we can’t cock this one up.
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Jesus that was dreadful.
St Mirren v Motherwell 28/01/23
in Club Chat
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Well that’s Goodwin sacked.