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Agree that Turnbull is a worthy shout for both. Disagree that anyone who thinks otherwise for POTY is being absurd or deserving of or inviting derision or mockery.

If I recall correctly, the 94-96 kit launched early and they wore it unannounced for the first time in a season 93/94 crunch title race match at home against the h*n. Can anyone verify? It was the first time I’d seen a hoop on the socks. Some great players wore that kit !!!

One for the youngsters

Am I the only one to see the irony in this youth debate ? It wasn’t all that long ago that the manager was being criticised on this thread for not putting the youngsters into the first XI

Yep, literally wore that shirt til it fell apart. I liked all the pony kits

I get the point that if there is a trend of players not signing or signing late then there is cause for concern. On that point then (one for the statos or those who know more than me), in recent years.... What reserve/youth players have the club failed to sign or have left it late to sign up? What reserve/youth players did the club sign up early? Where are they now? Not a loaded question. Just needing some clarity on my part.

Good post Denny and the best I’ve read from that side of the argument. I expect that I am one of those you refer to and in many ways, you’ve encapsulated some of my thinking. You highlight McKinstrey and Miller as examples of kids whose heads have been turned and rightly indicate that situations like that are not unusual. And this is the difficulty for me when trying to lay blame for the clubs perceived failure in safeguarding our investment in young talent. If the evidence is there (which we as fans are seldom likely to see) to show that the club failed to recognise and address the loss then I’d join the attack. But at the moment, there are still insufficient evidence to convince me that the club were negligent. Think about it. If any one of us were in these boys positions, had confidence in our abilities and were full of ambition and saw team mates lured by bigger clubs and offers, how many of you would accept your first offer of contract and close down your options? I for one would work my socks off to encourage a bidding war. Many have criticised Newell and Gordon getting new contracts. Perhaps the club did offer (similar to described for Hibs) all of their identified talent the new contracts and they (both having been at bigger clubs and know the colour of grass there) are the only ones to have signed them?

The power of hindsight. We can always say we knew something when in reality we knew very little. Running a football club is not my industry and am reluctant to express a view on the clubs negligence and or malpractice without knowledge of that industry or the happenings in one particular workplace within that industry. Talking of knowing very little, does anyone on here actually know if the 3 were offered an uplift and extension of contract last year? Does anyone know that they weren’t? I think there’s 2 phrases that sum up this debate, “You don’t know what you don’t know” and “opinions are like areseholes...”

Here’s a question for you all..... What is your favourite Well shirt/kit of all time and why?

New shirt arrived today.....absolutely fookin LOVE IT !!!!

Yep, you really do have to wonder. whilst you’re at it, why not try wondering about some of these...... There weren’t just four Beatles members The Beatles were a rotation of different, similar looking, people, one of whom was from Grimsby. The US didn’t invade Iraq because of Saddam or for oil but to get hold of a Mesopotamian star gate The US invaded Iraq to get ahold of an ancient Mesopotamian star gate . You might’ve seen the film Stargate? It’s based on a true story. The the Olson twins are just one person. That the Olson twins are just one person moving back et forth réally fast. North Korea is using Pokémon Go to spy on the U.S. and the western world I reckon you’ll really go for this one Steelboy!!! Pokemon Go is really a tool that N. Korea uses to get kids and eejits who should get a life to spy on the western world by taking pictures of top-secret locations.

Happy birthday Willie

I hadn’t read this thread for a couple of weeks so have had a fair bit of catching up to do. Fuck me, there’s some pish getting slavered. To hear that some were booing Hastie today is an absolute joke. He’s a 19 year old boy who would not have been prepared for and (by his own admission) never expected this level of attention. I would wager he’s not been media trained. I hope to christ he doesn’t go on this forum to read one of his own clubs fans twice calling the boy a cunt because of a speculative story in the most guttural of red tops. True to form, there are those blaming the club for having not signed our hot talent up by now. Many of whom are the same people who blamed the club for not putting youth first. Even when they do.....apparently it’s a shambles. Even for you YaBezzer, that’s a belter. I’d love to see your stats to substantiate the claim . It may be lost on some that this is a critical point in a footballers career. They are leaving the Academy age groups and looking to push on, find their level and stake their claim for a short but hopefully fruitful career. There are so many variables, why would anyone in that instance want to tie themselves to a long contract at the earliest instance? A fans perspective is factually obscured and tainted by tribal emotions. A wee bit of objectivity goes a hell of a long way.

They were claret in the same way that the badge on the home replica was black. I would wager they were done on the same press

By a very long way, my favourite Well shirt of all time

I was hunting for a pic for the retro shirt thread and came across this. I was in exile by this time ..... but who the funk is this orange skinned geezer !!??!!

I’ve been hunting google images for the white 86/87 away shirt and can’t find it. I did find this though. Wasn’t this the inside front cover of every match programme? This was the first season I started going regularly with my dad. I know I’m being a sad twat but my dad couldn’t afford to buy me that shirt or even a programme for every game so the memories associated to that picture alone are phenomenal. The excitement of a match day, the novelty of a programme and the magical feeling of falling in love with your football team.

And the Watford kit immortalised by John Barnes

I really enjoyed watching Brendan moan last night about his perceived injustice over the Toljan sending off. Its amazing how his views on things have changed now that decisions aren’t going his way. That is karma!!!!

I was there too, thought he was decent though didn’t get put under anywhere near enough pressure by the Charlton frontline. Do you go to the valley regularly Donaldo or just taking advantage of the football for a fiver?

Going into that 5 game run was reminiscent of the 14/15 season for me. We were playing a style of football that all other teams had sussed and there looked to be a morale issue. There were differences of course, we had a new manager and lots of new January arrivals. What we did have though was a critical run of games in February that gave a glimmer of hope that if we managed to get a couple of wins could see us nudge over the line to safety. As every week passed, that hope slipped further and further away. This year, the management and squad have made the most of that run and we are safe for another term. For that, they deserve nothing but applause. As much as I thoroughly enjoyed cuffing the h*n, going into those playoffs is not an experience I want repeating any time EVER.

To be fair, I think there’s quite a lot that’s beyond you Steelboy. Very short sighted way of thinking. I do wonder why some folk go to the football when it makes them so fuckin miserable

To quote supertramp (one for the old bastards amongst us) crisis? What crisis? It would be crime of the century if we were to be pulled into the mire. I’m happy for this to be famous last words but even in their quietest moments, the biggest doomsday merchants can’t think that we’re anything but free as a bird. See, I’m a dreamer but I get it that for some, pessimism is indelibly stamped and that some things never change. But as sure as Weeyin will be having his breakfast in America, willing progress as Well fan feels like everything is in slow motion. Some Things Never Change.

Straight from the green bottle lol. To be fair to Yodo, he/she has actually been fairly complimentary of the team lately. Of course, with the upcoming fixtures, I’m sure there will be opportunity for the full vitriol. I’m just content that it’s just turned February and we are as good as safe from a relegation battle.

Exactly the stuff I’ve been thinking but put in a far better way.