Neilwell86
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2 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:
I didn't say we should sell Kelly, was just saying if we were that skint that was an option but I don't believe we are in that position
Aye, it wasn't until I re-read your point that I picked up on what you were referring to.
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2 hours ago, steelboy said:
Where's the wind up?
I'm pointing out to the brown nosers who are already making excuses that we can't sign anyone decent that they are talking pish.
We have signed good players in the recent past and if a manager is saying that he can only manage decline in the squad then he's no good to us.
For me, most of those players, like Wilkinson, were relative unknowns, we signed them hoping they would turn decent, and thankfully some did.
I am also not having the Callum Lang shout, undoubtedly a decent player and doing well down south, but he was largely hopeless for us was he not. Same with Chris Long, 95% of fans were happy to see the back of him.
Nobody had heard of Moult, Tony Watt from memory wasn't a hugely popular addition, poor attitude etc etc, St Johnstone and hearts fans made sure we knew this, folk knew he was a good player, but didn't expect him to be as important as he was.
KVV obviously turned up with the fan fare, from the budget Bergkamp video, but was useless until the first game of the season against Hibs. Devante Cole was another unknown (other than being Andy Cole's son). We will make good additions this summer, rarely does a summer pass that we don't add one or two successes.
I do get what you mean by the whole, we are skint, have to sign dross rhetoric. it feels like every manager we have has the same spiel, whether that comes from the higher up the food chain, who knows, tbf, we wouldn't exactly boast about loaded either though, there is a balance to be had between pleading poverty and having a few quid in the bank and how you approach it.
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1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:
I remember when Robbo was in charge I did get a bit of bored of the ""we're skint" talk. I never seem to hear it from other managers.
We will get money in for Johnston and KVV and have cleared out a few players to get off the wage bill.
If we were struggling that much I would look to sell Kelly and get cash in and replace with Carson but I don't think our position is anywhere near that. COYW
Is Carson not still under contract with St mirren? There was rumours of him wanting out (not sure if that's happened) if not, would they not want a fee for him?
Edit - Just seen the end, and I think you are talking very much a hypothetical, worst case thing here and not something we should actually do.
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1 hour ago, steelboy said:
We should be trying to sign players of the standard of KVV, Moult, Cole, Watt, Long, Lang.
Even Curtis Main is better than the guys we are bringing in.
i'm genuinely not sure if this is a wind up, I'm going to say it is, and move on.
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Match worn shirts....anyone have any for sale?
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On 3/9/2022 at 6:51 PM, Yabba's Turd said:
Good chance I have this somewhere, will dig out at the weekend, it may be signed by a bunch of players though
Appreciate that.
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Does anybody have this top they would be wiling to part with, ideally size large, it was my first ever Well top.
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13 minutes ago, robsterwood said:
Big night ahead. Could be well clear of TWs new employers if results go our way. That would be sweet. Yes county suspect in defence. Our defence has looked ok. Good to see if new guy gets a gig.
On the new guys, it will be interesting. Can't see Tierney starting. With Shaw, he is very loyal to a winning team so the midfield would be Goss, Donnelly and Maguire. I would have thought slattery is a cert to come back in. Does someone else drop out for Shaw.
Keeps his cards very close to his chest with injuries/covid etc so the line up could be anythjng.
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Spare adult ticket for the game, if anyone is after one.
Agree with above, hungbo and Charles Cook are the threats. Week defensively.
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24 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:
The mallard next to Dingwall Station is the closest to the ground, its a decent pub, last time I was up we managed to get into the supporters club bar under the main stand so that might be worth a try
Mallard was going to be my go to, wouldn't mind finding somewhere with a few well fans in it.
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Totally forgot we had Hastie on loan last season.
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So, anywhere decent for a few pints before the game?
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20 minutes ago, steelboy said:
They beat us in our last three cup final appearances so if you are serious about us ever lifting a trophy again then yes they are.
An upgrade despite the fact you've never seen him play?
whilst you are correct the chances of that being a real issue in the next 6 months are probably quite slim? if we meet celtic in the final of the scottish cup I will stand corrected.
Have I not seen play? I watched the Betis game, he actually played well, didn't look out of place at all, against a very good european side, however i accept 65 minutes isn't much to form an opinion on a player (Despite the best efforts of some on this foum) I will also trust the judgement of the Sheff wed and Celtic fans who have seen him more often than me that rate him, that's enough to convince me that he is probably a better option than a couple of current midfielders.
17 minutes ago, steelboy said:Goss, Slattery, Donnelly, Maguire, Cornelius, Tierney, O'Hara and Grimshaw.
We are covered.
O'Hara is injured for the foreseeable future and Grimshaw isn't a midfielder despite our best efforts to make that work. Given Donnelly is made of chocolate, Goss and slattery enjoy racking up bookings and any potential covid issues, we could very quickly find ourselves short. Like I said, the versatility could be crucial going into the second half of the season.
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12 minutes ago, Heisenboab said:
For me it's simply because we'd be assisiting the development of players from rival club.
Only exception I'd make would be if they were good enough to be first pick on the team sheet or we were in desperate need of cover.
Never even heard of this guy before so couldn't comment on wheter he's better than what we already have and don't think we are that short of cover in midfield?
I kind of get that, but are celtic really a rival club, we will rarely be in direct competition with them, certainly not enough for me to worry about a boy coming in on lon for 6 months, and if his performances contribute to us finishing in the top 4 or 5, I don't think anyone would complain too much once he packs his bags and goes back to Celtic. From what I have heard he is quite highly rated by the celtic fans (and sheff wed before his departure) in his few appearances this season, showed up well in europe against Real betis as well.
He will almost certainly be an upgrade on a few of our current midfielders, meaning we could maybe look to move a couple on, we have O'hara out for the foreseeable as well. Could it be an opportunity for Cornelius to go and get regular game time in the championship? which would surely benefit both us and the player going forward. He has shown up well in his outings, not sure he would be seen as a starter though would he?
someone also mentioned on pie & bovril, that he has played just about everywhere on the park, all across the back 4 and through the middle of the midfield (DM,CM & AM) so that versatility can't be a bad thing, especially going into the second half of the season with covid being so rife at the moment.
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Just now, 0Neils40yarder said:
Not for me...bringing in loanees from the same league is pish
I know this is a fairly common view point, but why?
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No email for me, couch it is.
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Tam Cowan mentioned the Dundee link on sportsound, if he did end up there, that would be an utterly bizarre move, however I would take it with a huge pinch of salt, surely not?
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7 hours ago, Haggischomper said:
I'd argue that we do that, given CoVid, our youths aren't getting the necessary development. Might be a while before we see sellable assets like Turnbull, McKinstry et al coming through again so we need to make hay while we can.
No fault of the club.
That is very true, realistically you have Cornelius who is anywhere near being of the standard to shift on, even then, he has made two appearances so that will be a while away yet, the next lot of youngsters are still only 15/16/17. I suppose to counteract that, we do have sellable assets, Kelly, Slattery and Sondre are probably the next lot we would be actively punting for a few quid.
you are right though, although we might not be a charity case, money through the doors will always be welcome.
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2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
Yes, January is a funny month for transfers but I doubt if the club would entertain any offer below £500K. If we were to accept an offer much below that then that could jeopardise our final league position (£80k per place) or a decent cup run.
I didn't realise it was much as 80k for every place, 500k probably seems about right. I suppose we are weirdly in quite a strong position if we did want to try and attract a fee. Don't need the money, Watt is probably quite happy to hang around until then at least. And as mentioned, clubs are usually a bit desperate for anyone that can find the net in the January window.
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January is a funny month, there will be some teams crying out for a striker who can get goals, normally they don't come cheap, A championship club could see 3/4/500k as well worth the gamble.
I think we would definitely be open to discussion if anyone came in at those sorts of figures.
whether they would, I have absolutely no idea.
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5 hours ago, C&A not the shop said:
He's shown willingness to move abroad before and I think he's single/without kids so it's not a massive upheaval for him to go abroad again.
Maybe a more exotic move could be on the cards.
I think we are going to have to replace him, if he moves in January he'll be hard to replace, should get more options for a replacement in the summer.
His wife might have something to say about that haha.
I can't see him moving in January, at least I hope not. Saying that, I trust Alexander/scouting team to get his replacement right. We also might see more of KVV played through the middle on a weekly basis
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28 minutes ago, C&A not the shop said:
I think people are harsh on SOD when he came on, he wasn't great but he wasn't a bomb scare by any stretch.
Lamie and Mugabe in the middle of the back 4 for Saturday.
Grimshaw probably in for Maguire.
The Hearts game and the first 30 past night, if we can play like that even for 60 minutes each week we'll have a good season.
As for Watt, you'd imagine a Championship side would take a punt on him. 28 years old, top scorer in the SPL, clearly has always had ability but has now screwed the nut and upped his workrate.
I was just looking at Devante Cole's stats this season, he has completed a single 90 minutes, averaged 40 minutes across his ten appearances. Grass isn't always greener, especially for someone coming into their peak, saying that i am sure the wages down there are nice. Completely agree with you, I reckon someone will take a punt on him, I think what we have to our advantage though is how much he is enjoying his time here and his football.
Basically what i'm saying is three year deal, one of the top earners.
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Was watt's celebration a hint that he is staying? Looked like it from the replay of the goal, couldn't see in the ground.
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1 hour ago, Busta Nut said:
Is that the EPL I take it? I know folk who've paid £50 for old firm games
Apologies, yeah, English premier league.....which in fairness is very decent, home fans don't get that privilege, I think they were taking into account travel, food and drink involved for away fans.
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tbf, whenever we make those sort of signing's they are generally the ones that flop, badly.
historically we are good at signing nobodies.