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21 minutes ago, wellwell91 said:
There’s about a 20 page document on the SFA web site on the protocols to be followed for the return to football and both St Mirren and Killie by their own admission broke these protocols!!
The SFA website?
Only protocols ?
So not in the SPFL rules and regulations then?
PS, I’m being a bit facetious , everyone has their own conclusions’ most’ made without the ‘silly’ little details that could influence outcome and most all made with a hint of bias
I thought they were harshly punished in a public health pandemic, same as hearts, thistle etc, doesn’t mean I want it changed.
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maybe we should just play football when we can, rack up or scrape points as our capability allows , and let the process run , its course
plenty of scope for discussion without losing the rag, we were in a false league position on league match performance, as much as , what, if, but allows for , even head to head recent history with squads shows we benefitted
I'm not sure about 'blatant' rule breaches ..... when nobody is giving clear indication, if they are steadfast incorporated 'rules' or guidance to continue operate as a league that clubs agreed to , even as much as common sense applies, if they are solid rules , broken with legitimate punishment given, then that punishment usually stands , ideal ,
if not , then play fixtures?
alternatives if punishment handed out is deemed excessive? points deductions? or score draws?
I'm also wary of demanding financial compensation for 'rule' breaches , when our own club has a history littered with call offs having failed to meet the requirements of the rules and regulations , no difference if it is covid 'rules' or playing surface rules , floodlight rules etc , IF it's a rule break leading to a fixture not being played to the original schedule, to then financially compensate the other club would be an awful precedent set
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great start 0-1
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Former player Chic McLelland dies
http://www.motherwellnet.com/database/player-archive/mc-mac/chic-mclelland/
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thought he'd have went for some muscle , but he picks his squad
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a 1-2 Defeat , hardly crashing out the cup , when we concede with barely a whimper in response
a lot of talk this week , when some basic football skills practice might have helped
EDIT - change the thread title
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Hibs chief exec Leeann Dempster to stand down after 6 years at Easter Road.
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7 hours ago, well_said said:
I see that there are two premiership matches this midweek. Could we not have played one this week also?
we have two* first team squad players isolating, would we be seeking a match this week?
*potentially more if they did catch it
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John ‘Softie’ Philliben - Sweeper in the continental style, razor sharp accuracy with the long passes, super quick , had a gravity defying leap on him, and hit the most powerful penalties I’ve ever witnessed
Was also manager ( with ‘Mio’ ) for 4 games , 2W 2L , lost the last game as Shaun Maloney is a diving cheating wee rat
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Nathan Thomas checks in at the herbal Local Indian CBD Foy Fountain of Superseal Hope arena
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Excellent result, tough venue, on a horrendous day for football
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Do the linked tweets show the video for non Twitter users?
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QuoteThursday 29th October 2020
SPFL STATEMENT
KILMARNOCK FC AND ST MIRREN FC DISCIPLINARY DATES ANNOUNCED...
The SPFL has today announced that disciplinary proceedings have been commenced against St Mirren FC.
It is alleged that St Mirren FC breached the SPFL’s Covid-19 Regulations during the lead-up to their postponed League Matches v Motherwell FC on Saturday 17 October and v Hamilton Academical FC on Saturday 24 October.
The St Mirren hearing will be held before a Sub-Committee of the Board of the SPFL, chaired by an independent legally-qualified chair, on Tuesday 10 and/or Wednesday 11 November.
The previously announced disciplinary hearing in relation to Kilmarnock FC will be held on Tuesday 10 November and now may also extend into Wednesday 11 November.
Not quite sure if the investigation has concluded? Presumably it has, in each case, for the SPFL to call the clubs to hearings
be interesting if anything is permitted to come out of this what the alleged breaches are, and if they are really controllable by the clubs ( as employers)
the progress certainly isn’t helping get the backlog of fixtures cleared .
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Scottish Cup 2020/21 format confirmed
Tuesday 27 October 2020The Scottish FA have today confirmed the format for the 2020/21 Scottish Cup, with revised competition rules as a result of the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.
The condensed competition, with fewer rounds than normal, will begin with the Preliminary Round One on 28 November.
Key changes to the format for 2020/21 include:
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The removal of replays for all matches, with the outcome of any drawn match being determined by extra time and penalties, if required.
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The entry point of clubs to the competition and the number of ties in each round.
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The requirement to attempt to re-schedule any postponed match in the Preliminary Rounds, Round One and Round Two, during the first midweek after the original match date.
- The number of substitutes permitted in a match will revert back to three, with an additional one permitted in any period of extra-time.
Clubs eligible to participate will be given the option to decline to do so if they decide that they cannot meet the requirements.
Clubs that decline to enter the competition will not be penalised financially and will still receive the bonus payment, equivalent to them being eliminated at the round they would otherwise enter.
All existing participation requirements apply along with the following additional requirements:
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Changing facilities for both teams and match officials must be available and must comply with all relevant COVID legislation and regulations as outlined here. Further detailed information on changing facilities will be published by the Scottish FA within the next few days. Clubs will be required to provide confirmation of approval of their facilities from their respective League prior to their participation in the competition.
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From Round Three onwards, clubs drawn to play against SPFL Premiership teams must comply with the relevant COVID testing regime which applies at that time or as directed by the Scottish FA Board.
- Compliance with the relevant Match day Protocol(s) which the Scottish FA/Joint Response Group considers appropriate and issues at the relevant time.
The schedule and entry point of clubs is as follows:
PRELIMINARY COMPETITION ROUND ONE – Saturday, 28 November 2020
30 clubs (8 ties and 14 byes)
1 club from the East of Scotland Football League:
- Musselburgh Athletic (South & East Cup Winners Shield Winners)
1 Club from the Scottish Junior FA
- Auchinleck Talbot (West Junior Super League Winners)
28 Clubs from the ESL, SSL and Other Leagues:
- Banks O’Dee
- Blackburn United
- Broxburn Athletic
- Burntisland Shipyard
- Camelon
- Coldstream
- Dundonald Bluebell
- Dunipace
- Easthouses Lily MWFC
- Girvan
- Glasgow University
- Golspie Sutherland
- Haddington Athletic
- Hawick Royal Albert United
- Hill of Beath Hawthorn
- Jeanfield Swifts
- Linlithgow Rose
- Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale
- Newtongrange Star
- Newton Stewart
- Penicuik Athletic
- Preston Athletic
- St Cuthbert Wanderers
- Threave Rovers
- Tranent Juniors
- Tynecastle
- Whitehill Welfare
- Wigtown & Bladnoch
PRELIMINARY COMPETITIONS ROUND TWO – Saturday 12 December 2020
52 Clubs (26 ties)
8 Preliminary Competition Round One Winners
14 Preliminary Competition Round One Byes (from the ESL, SSL and Other Leagues NCL Approved)
15 Clubs from the Scottish Highland Football League:
- Buckie Thistle
- Clachnacuddin
- Deveronvale
- Formartine United
- Forres Mechanics
- Fort William
- Fraserburgh
- Huntly
- Inverurie Loco Works
- Keith
- Lossiemouth
- Nairn County
- Rothes
- Strathspey Thistle
- Turriff United
- Wick Academy
15 Clubs from the Scottish Lowland Football League:
- Berwick Rangers
- Bo’ness United
- BSC Glasgow
- Caledonian Braves
- Civil Service Strollers
- Cumbernauld Colts
- Dalbeattie Star
- East Kilbride
- East Stirlingshire
- Edinburgh University
- Gala Fairydean Rovers
- Gretna 2008
- Spartans
- University of Stirling
- Vale of Leithen
ROUND ONE – Saturday 26 December 2020
40 Clubs (20 ties)
26 Preliminary Round Competition Winners
2 Clubs from the Scottish Highland Football League:
- Brora Rangers (SHFL Runners Up)
- Fraserburgh (SLFL Runners Up)
2 Clubs from the Scottish Lowland Football League:
- Kelty Hearts (SLFL Winners)
- Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic (SLFL Runners Up)
10 clubs from the Scottish Professional Football League 2:
- Albion Rovers
- Annan Athletic
- Brechin City
- Cowdenbeath
- Edinburgh City
- Elgin City
- Queen’s Park
- Stenhousemuir
- Stirling Albion
- Stranraer
ROUND TWO – Saturday 9 January 2021
40 Clubs (20 ties)
20 Round One Winners
10 Clubs from the Scottish Professional Football League 1:
- Airdrieonians
- Clyde
- Cove Rangers
- Dumbarton
- East Fife
- Falkirk
- Forfar Athletic
- Montrose
- Partick Thistle
- Peterhead
10 Clubs from the Scottish Professional Football League Championship:
- Alloa Athletic
- Arbroath
- Ayr United
- Dundee
- Dunfermline Athletic
- Greenock Morton
- Heart of Midlothian
- Inverness Caledonian Thistle
- Queen of the South
- Raith Rovers
ROUND THREE – Saturday 30 January 2021
32 Clubs (16 ties)
20 Round Two Winners
12 Clubs from the Scottish Professional Football League Premiership:
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- Aberdeen
- Celtic
- Dundee United
- Hamilton Academical
- Hibernian
- Kilmarnock
- Livingston
- Motherwell
- Rangers
- Ross County
- St Johnstone
- St Mirren
ROUND FOUR – Saturday 20 February 202116 Round Four Winners (8 ties)
ROUND FIVE – Saturday 13 March 20218 Round Five Winners (4 ties)
SEMI-FINAL TIES – Saturday 10 & Sunday 11 April 2021
SCOTTISH CUP FINAL TIE – Saturday 8 May 2021-
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The removal of replays for all matches, with the outcome of any drawn match being determined by extra time and penalties, if required.
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42 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
Irrespective of who we did bring on, we could legally have brought on another sub, a youngster. I can see a case for Crawford, although he's unavailable next weekend, as OTF says. Hastie - what has he done to justify bringing him on?
We had used our three interruptions to bring on subs
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15 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
Well no Iain. We still don't know the facts.
Fair enough Dave, I just feel that far too many piled on to St.Mirren automatically assuming , cheating to gain some sort of advantage,
we’ve since had the facts , that there was in fact another significant outbreak present in their squad
to me if they had played the game , it wouldn’t just have been an SPFL breach , it would have been criminal.
all the other noise and genuine concerns about how it got into their club and spread slowly etc is a separate concern ( that happens to be occurring around the world) but for the decision they made last week on the late discovery of an additional positive case , I’d hope our club and players are thankful, our fans that still think they should have played us might never think that.
Let’s hope our one case is/was truly isolated and the SPFL ( the clubs) can deliver a path to navigate thru this metaphorical minefield
I doubt, path 1-39 passing every number en-route is achievable in the current timeframe , but equally I’d like to see majority of points awarded being for actual games , even if there is less off them
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I see them as two different cases,
1: have they been unfortunate to have an outbreak at their club that due to the incubation period of this virus and even with protocols in place can still go player to player in training whichhas dragged on over a long period
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have they as a club and employer/employees breached all the guidance to let it happen
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2. did they make up the potential risk last weekend to gain some advantage ?
Ordid they act responsibly on discovering the new case. and safeguard a cross team/region outbreak
The SPFL investigation can look at how they manage their club and the staff behaviour, but I think they should be given credit for not putting our players at riskagain we’ll disagree on a few things , if the SPFL find wrong doing I’m for punishment,
but this virus is very contagious, protocols or not , one case in a club from any player or staff members public interactions can lead to a steady spread through the business due to the contagious nature , but also the variable incubation periods and due to that even with testing it’s still a partial lottery, hence public health will often enforce at least two week lockdown on businesses that have that type of event
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So can we all agree , that St.Mirren took responsible action last weekend isolating the additional players and staff , then declaring they couldn’t play the match because of that action.
had they not isolated those players in addition to the one positive case on they day...
and played the match with all those asymptomatic players that have now subsequently delivered positive results
At best we’d all be questioning if they had caused our one case
you’re on it early 
still on summertime?
Season 2020’21: Game 18: Dundee Utd (A)
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Too long sadly