Andy_P
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1 hour ago, well_said said:
None of them , there is a reason they are relegated.
I'm not for a second advocating that we actively target Hamilton players but the fact you finish bottom doesn't necessarily mean they should immediately be discarded as options.
McFadden, Lasley, Pearson, Corrigan, Clarkson and Hammell for example were all part of the Motherwell team that finished bottom in 2002'03.
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So, Accies potentially needing favours you say?
"Number 1....Aaron Chapman......"
EDIT: Favours no longer required. Stand down Mr Chapman...
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55 minutes ago, Pepper said:
Is that not the reason why the front of the roof of the Cooper is so oversized compared to the rest of the stand? They forgot to scale it down from the two tier original design. I'm sure that was mentioned somewhere. or have I just dreamt that up!?
You might well be right can't say I've heard that mentioned before Pepper.
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The South Stand has served it's purpose well since it was built. It enabled us to mitigate the drop in capacity from not far off 20,000 pre-Taylor Report days to what would have been closer to 10,000 had they gone with a Cooper sized stand. I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of pounds extra they will have taken it as a result of making full use of the "estate". I don't think it would have made much odds in terms of the boxes but the additional space has provided them with gym space and (albeit the most basic) a limited training space when weather conditions made training outside difficult in addition to extra 2000 odd seats.
If that's meant we've ended up with four different sized stands then so be it. I'll take that little bit of character and individuality that Fir Park offers before the time comes when we're sitting in a 2030 or 2040's souped up McDiarmid Park or Almondvale. And to be fair they went some way to achieve a degree of uniformity with the cladding on each of the stands, although admittedly they've let that slide since with sponsorships
As an aside the original intention was actually to have a scaled down version of the South Stand when the North Stand was originally conceived with two tiers the original plan. It was only when they did the plans and worked out how high a structure they could get away with and discovered that would only to equate to something like four or five rows that the North Stand, or Cooper Stand as it became, was designed in it's current form.
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An observation rather than making any particular point but his pre-contract with Motherwell was public knowledge before the end of his last season at Livingston so this is not unchartered territory for Gallagher by any manner of means.
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"United"
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2 hours ago, Happy Dosser said:
I'd heard he went to Dalziel HS but didn't know if that was true.
What with all our missed chances, the terracing violence, the "robust" tackling and the lateness of Mathie's goal, I was really down when I got home. Credit to my Accies-supporting Dear Old Dad who didn't rub the defeat in but patiently listened to my litany of complaints and then simply said, "That's fitba', son."
Ha ha. That puts me in my mind of my old dear who without fail after getting her text update about the latest Cup defeat would without fail respond... "There's always next year".
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2 minutes ago, smiddy said:
ypur right, gallacher is not the future, but i also dont like what shite surrounded him this past couple of months so good luck to him he goes having been our captain but splitting the fans down the middle as for we alan i for one will miss not giving him the send off he deserves in his last game
Echo your last sentiment entirely. Covid has robbed us of the opportunity of saying our farewells to a few like Tait and Hartley and none more so than Allan Campbell.
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7 minutes ago, smiddy said:
now your talkin keek bringing up alan campbell as part of the discussion ffs weve had him boy n man heez been a great servant to the club and deserves his move and more money maybe you should have a wee look at yourself, the 2 guys situations are completly chalk n cheese
I wouldn't suggest that Campbell was anything other than you say and doesn't fully deserve any move that comes his way but let's not pretend that you don't want Gallgher playing because he's not "the future", just say you're bitter and don't like that he wants to play with another team.
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Happy to see Gallagher play in the remaining three games if the manager sees fit. As weeyin says we pay his wages, his performances might help us move a place or two up the table and gain some extra prize money that could conceivably be used to recruit his replacement.
For me it's been a mutually beneficial deal for me over the piece albeit I won't shed too many tears when he moves on.
I'm sure it says more about my lack of knowledge than anything else but when he played his last game for Livingston in the 3-2 game at Fir Park having already agreed to join us I'll be honest I couldn't have picked him out of their team. So it was all the more impressive, in my mind at least, when he had such an excellent first season when the guy that Hearts signed, whom everyone was salivating over struggled to make anything like the same impact. He was deservedly many folks Player of the Year and his international recognition justified.
His second season hasn't quite hit the same heights as often for club as it perhaps did for country and whilst a few were impressed at his willingness to fight his corner on social media, I personally didn't find the look of him and his family getting embroiled in a spats online with supporters a particularly good look for the captain of our club.
For me we've done well out of him and he's done well out of us. Our reputation for giving players a platform and helping them elevate themselves to where they aspire to be is further enhanced.
But one for those that don't want him involved in the remaining games because he's "not part of the future" what's the view on Allan Campbell? Is he to be binned too for the next three games or is he fine until speculation over his next destination reaches the tabloids?
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1 hour ago, milo said:
Is Turnbull worthy of an inclusion in the player collage?
Since he paid for it, why not...
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7 hours ago, Goggles & Flippers said:
Even alternate the claret and amber like the scarfs that almost everyone owns. I guess there is a valid reason for it. Flow is brand aware and we have an adept graphic design team so capability is there. I'm sure there must be more to why its just blocked as it is.
I think in one of Flow's earlier tweets, it might have been in response to someone I cannae quite mind, he said it was going to replicate the designs in the Cooper and South Stand to bring a degree a uniformity so I fully expected the single block of amber seats. I did kind of imagine it having one of those fir tree designs in the middle of it mind you. Looks a little odd.
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1 hour ago, texanwellfan said:
Not sure if it’s just me so I’d be interested in comments from some of the older folks on here about cup ties. My recollection is that you could easily tell the difference between a cup game and a league game. Cup games were much more intense but nowadays, for me anyway, they just seem like another game.
I don't know if you could call them intense, I didn't see the Aberdeen game, but the three other Scottish Cup ties were pretty absorbing viewing.
I think the intensity in part comes from players taking something from an atmosphere and crowd and I think since Cup games were removed from season tickets in many cases (not all) home supports have suffered a bit for it. I think of our Quarter Final against Hearts the other year where there were probably more Hearts fans there than Motherwell fans, or at Dundee last season where despite it being on TV, on a Saturday night and 80 odd miles up the road the 'Well support probably doubled that of Dundee's crowd.
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Perhaps it's because I've been fortunate enough to see us win the Cup but unless we're engaging in my "da's bigger than your da" debates with our peers then I tend not to get too hung up on other fellow diddy sides winning Cups (except St Mirren) and enjoy them for the Old Firm free Finals they are.
What does leave me regretful is reading that the Scottish Cup winner this season will be guaranteed European group competition next season. They are apparently a Play-Off win away from the Europa League group stages or lose that and they go into the Conference League group stage. Aside from the potential (perhaps limited for obvious reasons) for visits to new places and all you might imagine there's the potential for a fair bit of finance to made from it all which, if used astutely, has the potential to give that side a great opportunity to build on their Cup win/Euro involvement and give them a greater chance to repeat the feat (Europe if not the Cup win) again hoover European dough and perhaps over time begin to ease away a bit from the rank and file through having that regular additional finance. A kind of Rosenberg in Norway in times past perhaps, but on a much smaller scale.
Would have been nice if it that had been us.
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9 hours ago, grizzlyg said:
St johnstone an example of what can be achieved, 5 players through youth academy (tanser, clark..Gordon.. kerr...mccann), 2 signings from championship, rooney and McCart (we signed white), and good experienced pro's,..Craig...Bryson.. Conway. Maybe the non league model needs to change
From the listed twenty on Saturday evening there was one player signed from a non-league side.
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Anybody but St Mirren.
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20 minutes ago, AllyMax said:
Jeez, jut looked it up. How the fuck did he get that job ??????
Did he not manage some team in the US who Dave Cormack owned or had some kind of interest in?
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A motivational test. The players to peform. The club to sell streams.
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The "Motherwell rollercoaster" chat grinds my gears a bit but I guess it's a perfect description of events yesterday evening. Quite the mixture of emotions.
It wasn't a surprise how we lined up nor the aim of attempting to keep the game as tight and restrict Hibs as much as possible. The surprises came later at the point we went two behind. One nil you always have an opportunity. When you go two down that's altogether different. Cole's opportunity and the shot straight at the keeper apart from Allan Campbell I was thinking what a bland, nothing way to exit the competition having struggled to lay a glove on them.
And then...
I suspect Lamie was simply trying to put the ball back in a dangerous area but it looked the part and suddenly the switch was flicked and it was all Motherwell. I'm trying to imagine what the scenes would have been like had we all been behind that goal, a day on the sauce in the capital and grabbing an 88th minute equaliser in front of us. That would have been carnage!
The chance to seal it was the one that just fell out of reach of Lawless and then Cole. That was the moment.
Unfortunately it wasn't to be. Kelly continues to impress when facing penalties with another save but when our own players don't make their keeper make a save well...
You're left with a mixture of emotions from the despair of the exit, the pride at the recovery from looking totally out of it to taking it virtually the last kick of the ball and what if's about adopting that more positive outlook earlier in the game.
We can take credit for sticking with it, feel a bit more encouraged at what we can do when let off the leash but ultimately we're out and that's still a bit of a pisser to wake up to today.
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15 minutes ago, CoF said:
Really? I can see one poster in the last few pages and other threads that is happy with this type of football. Every other poster wants / expects change after the summer recruitment.
Slightly different thing. I didn't say they were happy with the style of play, I said they were justifying the style of play. I've seen a fair bit of comment across the social media channels I look at where the recurring theme has been that the end justifies the means.
And that's entirely fair enough with that given what's been at stake and that the necessary points accrued but as I've alluded I think it's quite interesting that despite the strong opposition against Wright we've garnered those points in a very Wright like manner and how that has been accepted by many.
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What I find quite interesting is the number who were dead set against Tommy Wright coming in because of the awful style of football we would undoubtedly suffer and he we are with justification after justification for a style that is every bit as numbing, if not more so, as anything Wright has served up.
Alexander has achieved his primary aim with a few games to spare. I give him a lot of credit for that, particularly after the losses to Hamilton and St Johnstone that really me worried we were about to fall off a cliff.
But I don't think it unreasonable to have hopes that the style of play will evolve. I fear that feeding off scraps, the smash and grab wins and the attempts to kill games by shutting up shop and throwing on defenders won't be sustainable for too long. And when I think back to some of the flak Robinson received when we were in higher positions in the table for the kind of football played neither do I think some of our support will be accepting of that indefinitely.
Interesting times lie ahead for sure.
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2021/2022 Rebuild
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Mark Caughey maybe? Swap for Jamie Fairlie about 87'88? Unless there's anything more recent.