Malky79

Amazing how despite hearing similar chat for about 5 years now Hammell and Lasley have still managed to pull their weight. No one lasts forever and Hammell like Lasley are generally underated players whose flaws are massively overstated more often than not.

Nah, but pleased to see him doing alright.

Who knows what we'll need, Moult could be sold on for a decent fee in the summer. Given the hand to mouth existence we lead any time we do get a player banging in goals or standing out from the crowd as much as you want to keep them part of you is hoping for some seven figure transfer bid coming in.

Yeah I agree but I was unaware it was as low as £5 a month until a conversation the other day. It was also £5 a month to go to the Well Society with only indirect influence in running of the club rather than the body that essentially owns the club. Massive difference for me anyway.

I haven't even thought about joining the Well Society in a while, it's felt like a project that was stagnating and basically very little positive coverage of it could be found. That being said if we are on the verge of an era where the fans via the Well Society are about to be in control of the club that really has to change. We should be shouting from the rooftops about the potential, and the potential goes both ways if the response remains lukewarm but I look on Facebook and see Motherwell FC has something close to 25,000 likes and whilst that isn't likely to translate into 25,000 people trotting up to Fir Park or with the means to dip into their pockets it certainsly suggests to me we need to be more ambitious in terms of the numbers of people that can be involved. We should be looking to target about 10,000 members, make the joining fee modest. £50 annual fee, free entry to one game with it. Something tangible for the money along with voting rights on board make up and key issues that it suitable to canvas the wider membership over.. Between diehards, fair weather fans, those whose working pattern doesn't allow regular attendance, the slightly disillusioned, the far flung fans who makes occasional if any visits over a season we should certainly be looking for a membership comfortably greater than the three to four thousand who get along fairly regular. It sounds a bit of a stretch, but hitting that annual 10k membership would generate approx half a million a year, I know I'd certainly pay that kind of sum and would jump at it if I felt the upatake was getting close to even half that. But it needs to be aggressively marketed and the mistakes of previous eras of Well Trusts and Well Society will need to be consigned to the past.

You can only piss with the cock you have but like in the Hearts game he didn't give us a chance, in the Hearts game he disrupted the defence much more than was required and on Saturday we never looked like we could get on the front foot and this Caley team are not the team from last season. Indeed they don't even have Christie on loan anymore from the previous game you mention, we should have played to our own strengths and by and large this season that has been with Moult and McDonald together. I have no issue with a 4-5-1 that could become a 4-3-3 with the right players in the right roles, however we set up at home to nullify a currently average SPL outfit. We played our arguably most energetic midfield player almost as a deep lying forward and he looked lost, at no point in the game did it ever look like it was working beyond at best frustrating Inverness. That is a chronic lack of ambition and belief in your players in my view especially in a one of cup tie at home, might have accepted it up at theirs at a push.

For me Cadden, our biggest threat but mention for Gomis who looked composed in the middle. Could have went with either.

Only change I really want is Moult in for Lasley and pulling Pearson back into the middle of the park where he can effective and getting two back up top. It is a must win game if we want to have any hoipes of not getting mired in the relegation fight.

The thing that annoys me most about yesterdays game is the nonsense that ICT are so good we needed to play one up front for fear of being over run. Just bollocks, fair enough doing that if we had a lead to defend late on perhaps but they are a bang average SPL team not even in the top half of the table. Now I am a massive fan of Lasley and reckon he still does an ok job, but he isn't the player he was and frankly in Gomis and Pearson we could have had a central midfield two more than able to mix it with the physical stuff and play a bit of football, with Cadden on the right offering a bit more of a rounded game than Ainsworth and Marvin on the left we should have been looking to take the game to Inverness at home with our top score and McDonald up front. A simple change that in all liklihood would have seen us carry significantly more attacking threat. Leaving us options on the bench in Fletcher, Ainsworth even the raw and slightly overhyped Dom Thomas if we needed to change up our attacking options and a bit of experience in Lasley to throw on if we had a game to see out. Not shoehorning in Gomis and pushing Pearson up the park looking like a fish out of water. Utter shite from McGhee in his justification, tries to be to clever by half and despite thinking he is twat I'd much rather put up with him winning games than losing games. There has been bad luck in amongst some of our recent bad results and I wouldn't be calling for his head at the moment early signs are he is no different from the last time he was here. Essentially has some good managerial qualities but after a few decent reuslts he reckons he is the messiah and is all about laying the blame anywhere he can when it isn't working with his elaborate tactical genious not being appreciated but us ungrateful plebs.

Pearson was nearly up front for half the game, it is Stephen Hughes at left mid all over again. We had one decent bit of play in the second half when Cadden set up Pearon on a plate to miss the ball completely with the goal gaping. We equalised from a corner Inverness defended horribly and that convinced McGhee to sit Moult back down, our formation was not in any way working. Moult for Lasley was the right change but it should have camr a hell of a lot sooner to give Moult a chance to get in the game. Why we took of McDonald for Ainsworth when you could see Cadden was about burst as well. McGhee is an arsehole of a man and we'll overlook that if he gets results but his massive ego will likely get in the way of that.

Well right now Dave it is Grimshaw that Cadden is filling in for and the early signs are good. In fullness of time he might well replace Pearson but right now he doing well with the grizzled duo right more in the thick of the battle beside him. I'd also suggest Grimshaw was increasingly becoming the star of the show before he sadly departed and was doing more than just the unglamourous side of the game although he certainly was doing that quite well. Reminded me of a young Keith Lasley so he did, maybe a bit more potential.

Well barring having another lively looking youth prospect coming through this is now surely our second priority after beefing up the midfield options. I know what I'd take first mind, but get two in today that can do a job and I'll quietly confident we can kick on and finish the second half of the season pretty strongly.

There is very rarely been a time when we not wanted to add a player or two but I'd hope we have one or two lined up for today or out of contract in the next few days. Cadden coming in looks like he can do a turn and replace Grimshaw but that still leaves us in bother if Pearson or Lasley are missing so someone who can play that role still looks essential. Also whilst between them they didn't do much in their time here if Robinson, Clarkson and McFadden have moved on then that only leaves Fletcher as competition and cover up front. Perhaps a sharper and fitter Craig Moore might be back but if not I'd hope for someone else in up front given how many games Fletcher has been fit for this season as well.

If Cadden connects with the Dundee players foot as they both swing for the ball it could just as easily have been given the other way. Two players swing a foot at the ball and make contact with each others foot how exactly the ref worked out who infringed who I can't tell, certainly didn't look like the Dundee player got the ball and then got clipped. It a nonsense that whistle blew for anything there.

My only problem with Lasley and Pearson is that we have no one capable it seems of filling their shoes. Cadden made an encouraging full debut yesterday and might one day move more central who knows. Right now we definitely need someone that can go right in there when Lasley or Pearson are missing, that will put pressure on them for a starting position and with luck if we can get someone for the longer term will look to replace firstly most likely Lasley who despite holding his own at SPL level will eventually later than expected need replaced.

Ainsworth to come in surely seems a given, who anchors the midfield with Peason is a massive dilemma. I don't think there is anyone we'd have any strong feeling for, Leitch at a push seems the most likely fit but slightly out in the cold. McGhee did use Laing in midfield once before but hasn't been quick to repeat that experiment. I'd be prone to giving Leitch the nod rather than trying a square peg in a round hole.

I guess you can argue for unnatural position but fuck me that is a soft pentalty for a shot flying miles high anyway that skiffed hand at most.

Frustrating day in a game we bossed for aboput 75 of the 90 minutes. Should have been out of sight before they equalised first half never mind the second, shocking defending at that free kick. Their second was a never to be repeated effort and I didn't see clearly what happeened with the handball. All in all though we look so much better than at beginning of the season and we should still be looking up the way. Anyone know why Ainsworth was missing?

Given Hammell and Chalmers are out I guessing Taylor is getting a shot at left back. Certainly not a back four I have major confidence in, hopefully we can get a decent hold of the ball today and be playing on the front foot.

Was that not a reserve League Cup final? I certainly mind being at that reserve game he hit the hattrick.

My memory is pish, so off the top of my head I can think of loads of our better players over the years and struggle to think of one particular game from them A few off the top of my head though. Paul Lambert in Dortmund, he just seemed to go up another level. There was a 2-1 win over Rangers in 93/94 I think it was where big Sieb was amazing, midweek at Fir Park I think. Would also add McFadden in the 4-1 win over Hibs a few seasons back, genuinely thought we were going to see the real McFadden so much more than it turned out after that performance.

Ross Forbes defintely looked like he had talent, but it wasn't quite enough. It one thing not being able to get about the park like a young PhIl O'Donnell but he looked like he was towing a caravan and whilst I agree there should and is a lot more to being a footballer than their engine if he'd had the talent required he'd have got past that impediment and thrived regardless. As it was he could on a good day brighten up a game but he wasn't a Scottish Pirlo lost to the game. Seems to be doing pretty well for Morton now so least he making a living. Mark Fitzpatrick I genuinely thought would be at least the next Lasley, seemed really similar when he came through, never looked a superstar but commited, seemed to have no fear and was decent at everything. Never seemed quite as confident in himself after an illness, was it glandular fever?

If memory serves McGhee wasn't a fan of Lasley particuarly first time round. WIth Hughes and Jennings in the squad at the time there was a decent case to be made for him not starting. As much as Lasley isn't in his prime and maybe very near the end of his playing career it's a fucking joke to drop him for a centre half who couldn't exactly be described as a ball playing centre half. Laing in midfield, up there with Stephen Hughes on the left wing. Have to admit wasn't at the game, but every source I followed it on suggested it should have been a cricket score. I not expecting McGhee to transform us over night but that line up today reeked of the shite second season. Given Aberdeens abysmal run I have little doubt we'll be the ones to kick start their campaign again next week, hopefully we won't be quite so abject as we were today.

So you reckon if our new manager does a Sauzee and starts with 6/7 game losing streak he wouldn't be under pressure? Plenty clubs have quickly moved a manager on after a truly awful short spell and it would make he-haw difference to our efforts to replace him. Wasn't advocating we go out of our way to be overly ruthless and Craigan would at least have the luxury of at least one win under his belt, and pointing out we have a big of wiggle room to take a chance despite his inexperience.

What managerial experience did Guadiola have before he got the Barca gig? Even the best managers often have a duff spell or two on their CV. Craigan strikes me as a reasonably intelligent chap with a solid playing career with top level international football experience and a great affinity with our club. Short of landing someone that seems pie in the sky I doubt we'll have many clearly better options, and we could still punt him before January if it was a disastrous Frank Sauzee type start. Certainly not seen a lot of names I'd leap at.