Ya Bezzer!
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Was talking to some Celtic supporters this week about Theo Bair and said he must be the biggest player in the league.
Well I wanted to know for sure....so I did the research.
Top Ten Units in the Scottish Premier League (height x weight, goalkeepers excluded).
1. Theo Bair (Motherwell)
2. Ricki Lamie (Dundee)
3. Cameron Carter-Vickers (Celtic)
4. Michael Nottingham (Livingston)
5. Leo Balogun (Rangers)
6. Dante Polvara (Aberdeen)
7. James Scott (St Mirren)
8. Stephen O'Donnell (Motherwell)
9. Charles Dunne (St Mirren)
10. Dan Casey (Motherwell)
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Kelly made a few good saves and looked reasonably secure on a blustery day.
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The last three matches at Fir Park have been atrocious and that was the worst one by far.
We probably deserved a draw but not by any great play, more each team was as bad as each other. The weather conditions didn't help but still.....
Only good thing about it was dead silence from the Hibs end when we scored! When your team is pish, schadenfreude goes a long way!
The second half was slightly better than the first, else it might creep into my Top 5 worst games ever.
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On 3/29/2024 at 7:51 PM, Kmcalpin said:
If we can score a goal tomorrow that would be an achievement in itself, as we've failed to score in all 3 meetings so far this season. Go for it.
There was a whopping 4 goals in 4 games in this fixture over the season and 50% of them were yesterday.
Clearly two teams that cancel each other out.
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Not a day for attackers or even midfielders getting a MotM award.
McGinn did well as a stand in centre back so I went for him.
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Started the game quite well but St Mirren got a hold of the match and their goal had been coming when they got it.
Thought the midfield of Zdravkovski and Halliday was really poor. There was a spell when pretty much every player made a mistake as soon as they got possession.
Our launched balls up to Bair were predictable and although Bair and Vale combined later to get a goal they were pretty poor for most of the match.
Much like the Aberdeen game we didn't really look like scoring and it was a bit of a surprise that we did.
The one positive was that St Mirren didn't cause us too many problems considering we had a back three with two full backs in it.
Draw was probably the right result but it was a tough watch for long spells.
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2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
Some substance in that, but having the money certainly helps. A lot though, is to do with final league placings. Hearts and St Mirren both kow they won't be relegated whereas we don't yet know for certain. This uncertainty will colour negotiations.
They'll also be getting a lot more prize money and an extra Old Firm match finishing Top 6.
But let's face it, Spittal was never staying. We are lucky to get one good season out a player these days before they are snapped up.
Hopefully we don't get any of that boo boy nonsense.
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2 hours ago, mcguru said:
Spittal going to Hearts.
Record says so, so must be true
How many midfielders do Hearts need?
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27 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
Now I don't understand why Moses wasn't given any time today like 15 or 20 minutes.
He'll be miles off it. Look how bad we were today with a week off. He's not played in 2 months.
And you need to give kids a chance to learn and gain experience. Ferrie wasn't any worse than anyone else.
Bair was straight through on goal today if he didn't have the first touch of a pregnant hippo.
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3 minutes ago, robsterwood said:
11 game winless for the sheep and we oblige. Seen it coming.
And 1 clean sheet in 20 league matches and we couldn't score!
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3 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said:
Hopefully we can put a demoralised Aberdeen to the sword but I seem to remember a few times when Aberdeen were absolutely gash and then they come to Fir Park and pump us!
Yep, seen that movie a few times!
Will sum up the match in one sentence "Just never looked like scoring" and that's against an Aberdeen team that's hardly kept a clean sheet this season.
Hardly took a touch in the first 6 or 7 minutes of the match and that basically set the tone for the match. We need to start on the front foot. The only time I can remember us actually doing that was against Livingston when we had a good win.
We weren't abysmal bad today but it was all a bit tepid and at home we should be setting the tempo, not sitting off teams. We've seen it so many times this season and you know what, if you do that you don't win.
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Hopefully we can put a demoralised Aberdeen to the sword but I seem to remember a few times when Aberdeen were absolutely gash and then they come to Fir Park and pump us!
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20 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:
On their current form I still think it's a possibility😁😁 St Mirren never had an effort on their goal until their penalty in the 95th minute then they lose another a minute later, they are seriously shite.
Aberdeen have 1 clean sheet in their last 20 league matches. So we better see a goal at least!
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Fantastic result.
Just wanted to point out that Lennon Miller has played in 6 out of our 7 wins despite being out for a long spell.
Coincidence?
Don't think so.
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1 hour ago, wellfan said:
Whichever way you frame it, 6 wins in 28 and 2 early cup exits is a poor return for any manager. He likely wouldn't be here now if it hadn't been for his secret extension. We'd also be worse off in the league if it weren't for those around us being equally rotten at times, but they won't always be. So no, I won't drop it because I don't want someone with that record at my club long-term. If you do, fine.
And yes, it was a great result tonight in the end. It was a game of two very different halves.
Aberdeen have literally spent millions of pounds and have 6 wins this season.
We have the 5th best record in the league in terms of loses. In fact we've only lost once against anyone outside the Top 3 in the last 18 matches.
But you keep dismissing draws that we've got away from home against teams like Celtic, Aberdeen and Hibs. as if these results don't count or are an actual negative.
We have 11 defeats in 28 currently. The last time we finished 3rd we had 12 defeats in 30. In terms of defeats we have not been excessivily losing - we usually lose around 16-17 matches a season.
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One of those one's were pretty much everyone was good in the first half and then it dropped off second half.
Spittal scored a great goal.
Mugabi was excellent then made a mistake and looked a bit shaky after that.
Miller did some good stuff but was also sloppy at times.
Bair caused Celtic a lot of problems first half but was puffed out in the second half.
Vale looked like he has tidy feet but perhaps his shooting let him down.
Difficult to pick out one guy but I'm going to go for Adam Devine, made some good defensive blocks, got forward too and I just like the look of him over the last couple of matches.
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1 minute ago, MJC said:
Talk about straight out of the happy clappers manual.
The game lasts as long as it does until the final whistle. And over the years I’ve seen us snatch defeat from the jaws of victory too often in these scenarios.
2-0 and 3-2 up against Celtic a few years back, lose with the last kick of the ball.
1-0 up at Ibrox with five minutes to go in the Scottish Cup. Lose 2-1 with two late goals.
Score a stoppage time equaliser against Celtic. Still lose the game.
Beating Rangers 2-1 at Fir Park and totally comfortable. Stevie Woods gifts them an equaliser and lose the replay.
Comfortable against Rangers in a Semi Final at Hampden. Craigan loses Naismith in the last minute. Lose the game.
Likewise against Celtic at Hampden in a semi. Corrigan pass backs to Graeme Smith last minute, they score they win.
Get a last minute penalty against Rangers when 0-0. Miss it.
I could go on but you get my drift.
Rangers and Celtic are much better than us. Hence we don't beat them much. It's why no one else has won the league since 1985 and the entire history of Scottish football has been dominated by them.
However I do remember some like pumping Rangers in the playoff 6-1 or the semi final win with Moult's wonder goal or a bunch of draws in recent times at Fir Park, Celtic Park and Ibrox or the semi final win on the way to the '91 win or Tommy Coyne scoring a header in a gale in the Scottish Cup or a bunch of other times. Maybe you should remember some of the good times as well.
And of all the posters here I don't think I'm one that can be accused of being a happy clapper.
I just think Motherwell fans should be fair, have realistic views and maybe have the self awareness of recognising where we are in the game.
Putting in a good effort against a team with x 25 our resources and losing out narrowly ain't the worst thing in the world.
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13 minutes ago, MJC said:
Investors won’t change our gutless mentality and inability to stop shooting ourselves in the foot in games like these.
I’ve seen it too many times now with too many managers and too many players. If Celtic or Rangers aren’t pumping us soundly under their own steam then we throw them a helping hand.
Its a mentality issue that runs deep within the club. Even when Spittal put us 1-0 up today I actually barely celebrated and indeed I thought those around me seemed quite subdued in their celebrations too. For me certainly it was just that knowing that it was only going to end the way it did and I couldn’t enjoy the moment as much as I should have done. It’s all just so infuriatingly predictable.
Every Celtic player is better than our equivalent.
To compete in the game we have to make up with that with sheer workrate - which we did.
This however leaves you vulnerable in the latter stages of the game when stamina and mental fatigue become factors.
That's what happened today, it's what's happened many times in the past.
If it was mentality we wouldn't be holding out to 94th or 97th minute or indeed getting a late draw at Celtic Park earlier in the season.
People just need to get a grip. Obviously it's gutting to lose like this but we don't need the finger pointing and vitriol.
How about maybe, just maybe, giving the team a slap on the back for competing against a team who's wages bill for their subs today is more than our entire club budget.
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2 minutes ago, wellfan said:
Read my post above. Mugabi was doing fine in the centre of the back three, as was McGinn at the right of the back three. But, to accommodate Butcher, who has been poor for a while now, both had to switch, which unsettled the defence. Blaney should've been on at that point to keep it settled, be he shit or not. The rot set in with that defensive change anyway, so the rest is ultimately inconsequential.
I don't necessarily disagree with the tactical element of what you say but it also seems like a big slice of what-might-have-been.
We were under almost constant siege for the second half, certainly the last half an hour, most of our players were done after the 70th minute.
It's a big, big, downer to lose the match like we did but like I said giving Celtic basically 45 minutes to score a winner was a bigger issue because after that happened we were always going to get deeper, more tired, less concentrated and I'm not sure different personnel or set up would have made that much difference.
Not the first time this has happened, we are probably all veterans of it, hence my belief that Celtic having the ball in our half for pretty much the whole half had more to do with it than individual players or set up.
Also let's not forget that Maeda missed probably the sitter of the season before any of this happened.
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Just now, robsterwood said:
You seriously happy with 2 wins in 23?
I'd be happier with 3 or 4.
Most weeks we are competing against teams with bigger budgets, in some cases much bigger budgets, but I think the general effort and application is OK.
BTW,
Aberdeen have 1 win in 9.
Hibs have 1 win in 9.
Livingston have 1 win in 19.
Ross County have 1 win in 11.
St. Johnstone have 1 win in 10.
Know why? Cos there is so many draws in this league.
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1 minute ago, robsterwood said:
We've already only won 2 in 23 league games. Is that not already a collapse?
We've not lost to anyone outside the the Top 3 since early December.
Too many draws but let's not make out like we are losing every week cos we aren't and the players are clearly trying.
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Another sickener but the players gave everything..
The truth is we should have gone in at half time more than 1-0 up. 2-0 would have made it a lot more difficult for Celtic and would probably have been deserved.
2nd half we came out and sat too deep and Celtic scoring in 50 minutes was always going to make it hard for us.
Players gave an enormous amount of effort but we tired and had no out ball for probably the last twenty minutes and there was a sort of inevitability when Celtic scored.
A lot of mumbling about the substitutes but they had to be made, we were out on our feet.
Hopefully we don't suffer a collapse of moral like we did last time this happened.
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18 hours ago, dennyc said:
Wellgirl, sadly it mirrors life. Those that shout loudest and the most often always appear to be the majority when in fact they are not. And what do they do when their obsession makes little sense? They shout even louder and more often.
I think it's always worth remembering that Steelmen Online represents a fraction of the Motherwell support.
There are, what, 150 regular posters? Is it even as many as that?
Even if it was 400 or 500 it would still be a single digit percentage of the overall support.
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17 hours ago, grizzlyg said:
Plays with St Johnstone, midfielder, tenacious and decent
He's not been playing for St Johnstone recently. Or on the bench.
I assumed he is injured.
Motherwell v Hibernian 13/04/2024
in Club Chat
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To be honest not too sure about some of the figures stated for players but that's how it works out.
We all know wee Dougie used to add a few inches on to his height!