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You're forgetting that all the officials are against them.

I was a bit of a goalie in my youth , and I was the rubbish bit. Goalie gloves were not a thing then but playing on ash pitches and mould master balls were . Goalies have it easy nowadays.

Goalie gloves are so much better now to enable them to catch the ball better. I suppose it makes a difference who is wearing them though.

That only leaves Wilkinson, bair and Shaw for bench cover with no experienced defenders or midfielders. Bare bones indeed.

Just one of many.

He's better than Wilkinson and bair.

I was slated on another thread for saying Kelly was bang average . I now admit I was wrong. He's worse than that.

The best manager in my time Tommy McLean signed loads but he was savvy enough to offload them fairly quickly.He also signed lots of gems. The transfer window makes that almost impossible nowadays so it makes it vital that as much research as possible is done before signing players.

I think you are being a bit unfair with your snide comment regarding Allan Campbell. Allan played 135 times and I am sure he never gave less than 100% in every match and I don't know of any well fan who didn't appreciate his time spent at the club and didn't wish him well in his future career. A cracking player.

You're not paranoid, you're a realist. Paranoid are Celtic from top to bottom.

And yet they sat the officials are against them.

I just think he is bang average.

I think a lot of us were hoodwinked into thinking he was a good keeper because of the incompetents before him , when it turns out he is only average , and getting picked for Scotland squads are the result of no one else available and Clarke must think this also given the number of minutes he played recently.

Perhaps also playing in front of a goalkeeper who doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

I don't think you'll find too many disagreeing with you.

Bradford have just appointed someone very similar.

Did Nicky Cadden ever play for us ? I thought it was just his snake twin brother.

Yes a typo should have put 5. I will have to start checking before posting.

Watched livi v rangers , ref played 5 mins stoppage time in the first half and 9minutes second half. Compare that with our game yesterday 2 mins first half and 5 second half yet no more var checks than our game . Referees in this country are a joke.

Your jokes are mince.

Stevie wood tried that , it didn't work.

It will never catch on.

He'll mend Bradford , he must have an amazing interview technique.

Fair enough

Lots of us have also sat through Randolph, Ruddy, Carson and Gillespie . Kelly is much nearer the list of goalkeepers you mention than my list.