GrahamH
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I’m not sure there’s much difference between Bears “handball” and the one at the end with Shinnie.
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Brilliant result and a battling performance. Should definitely be looking up the table now rather than down.
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1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:
I get what you're saying about Spittal's positioning, but Considine is clearly nearer the line than our number 7. I can only assume that the VAR camera's positioning is not quite perfect or human error is responsible.
No, he isn’t. The view from behind the goal shows Spittal’s right foot is marginally closer, playing Considine onside. Won’t let me add a screenshot but you can clearly see it on the Sportscene coverage. Had Considine been offside I agree that he was definitely interfering.
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1 hour ago, steelboy said:
Seeing the goal on Sportscene I don't think Considine was interfering. Correct decision.
It was the correct decision because he was onside so it doesn’t matter whether or not he was interfering.
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1 hour ago, steelboy said:
Looking at their goal my guess is that the shitey VAR system wasn't able to draw lines because you can't actually see Spittal's feet through the crowd of players so they just let it stand.
So glad we voted for this and spend a fortune on it.
The VAR lines were shown on the Motherwell TV feed. I’ve no idea how accurate they were but they dod draw them.
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1 hour ago, bobbybingo said:
Who is Harry Vale?
Think he must mean Jack Vale. His stats aren’t the best.
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Just now, Ya Bezzer! said:
I was expecting us to not concede an easily preventable goal 3 mins into the match.
I’d also add, and then look as if we could concede from virtually every Rangers attack.
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6 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said:
Cheer up still a long way to go
That’s not really a positive…
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Playing a forward who can’t run in midfield was never going to end well.
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1 hour ago, wellwell91 said:
Yip your RWB marking space
Who can you see in the picture that is actually marking anybody?
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On 12/3/2023 at 9:53 AM, Kmcalpin said:
On paper I agreed too, but on the field it soon became apparent that the actual formation was causing us serious problems. An out of touch Butcher was playing almost as part of a back 6, with a 2, possibly 3 man midfield and an isolated striker having to feed off long aerial balls. After an encouraging early goal, we sat back and packed our penalty box. Dundee were allowed to swarm all over us and were afforded as much time and space as they wanted. In short we were far too passive. Again we looked very narrow and Dundee took full advantage of space out wide. They knew our weaknesses.
Dundee were no world beaters, but looked faster and better organised than us on the day. The team does have something though to come back a man down and snatch a late leveller, not for the first time. Our defending was abysmal and we looked disorganised. When out of possession we lost all shape. A lot of these weaknesses are down to the manager. Players who were playing well months ago are now playing poorly en masse. Thats down to the manager.
All things told I reckon it was a point gained and not two lost - a sad indictment on how poorly we played.
VAR spoiled today's game and provided plenty of talking points. Overall though, the ref had a good game considering he was rookie at this level. After having watched the highlights, I’m baffled as to why there was no VAR check for Dundee’s first. When the ball is lofted back in there are 3 Dundee players, including the scorer, clearly offside. Was there a very slight deflection? I can see now why Mugabi’s goal was scrutinised for fouling – maybe 50/50. Harry Paton’s red card -wrong. A yellow card, as originally awarded by the ref. He was going for the ball, which was at knee height, as was McCowan. Is it a case of who gets there first? A bizarre incident late on, when Boateng went down injured after being pulled back. He fell to the deck clutching his ankle to waste time, and was asked to leave to the field by the officials. He complied only to be blocked by Tony Docherty and pushed back on again. You couldn’t make it up.
I’m not sure what angle you’re looking at but the scorer is yards inside and there are 6 Motherwell players, including Kelly, playing him on. It’s not even close to being offside.
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9 minutes ago, Richie said:
Georgie Gent was getting his shirt ripped off at the back post late on in the game.
Didn't even go to VAR which is surprising as last week these were heavily scrutinised at Celtic Park and Pitrodrie and penalties given.
You need to remember the criteria they look for:
Did the pull impede the player?
Did the player have any prospect of getting to the ball?
Does the player play for Celtic or Rangers? (most important)
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2 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
Agreed. Did VAR overrule the ref yesterday? It seems to be the case that if 2 players are going for a ball at the same height and one gets caught, then the later of the two gets red carded. Paton may not even have seen McCowan steaming in from the side yesterday, as he was focused purely on the ball. He clearly thought that a yellow card was harsh.
VAR can’t overrule the ref, they can only ask them to look at it again to see if they want to change their initial decision. Paton knew he was at risk of going off as he looked up to check the colour of the card when he was booked.
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35 minutes ago, dinnae-punt-it said:
I’m a muppet. Has that always been the case? If so, I’ve completely missed that rule. I knew it applied to throw ins but had no idea about direct goal kicks.
Yes mate, that’s been the rule for as long as I can remember.
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7 minutes ago, dinnae-punt-it said:
I’m amazed that this wasn’t picked up by VAR or the BBC pundits, but it looks like Oli Shaw is a mile offside from the goal kick.
You can’t be offside from a goal kick.
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3 minutes ago, Orinoco said:
tv signal lost and apparently we scored??
Same happened to me, lol. Assumed we’d lost, started reading on here and found out we’d equalised.
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On the Paton red card, watch Paton when he gets booked. He looked up to see what colour the card was as he knew he’d caught the guy high up. He’s a clown.
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2 penalties, Taylor staying on the pitch and over 10 minutes of injury time. Even Celtic fans will struggle to spin that as the officials being against them.
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1 minute ago, ppower said:
VAR did look at the incident. Mugabi handled the ball. Also got away with one at the penalty. Kelly moved of his line before the kick was taken. VAR looked at said it was ok, it wasn't.
Kelly was fine at the penalty as his left heel was on, or above, the goal line.
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14 hours ago, steelboy said:
I don't really understand what you are talking about here. The last two times we changed manager almost everyone agreed both interim managers had earned the job. Prior to that we brought in Alexander who is known for falling out with people and had a decent record. Our transfer policy did change under Alexander and it wasn't spectacular but it got us the required results then he went off the boil and was looking for an exit. That's fitba.
Being Motherwell manager isn't complicated and it's not about making demands of the board. There's a budget for players, the manager needs to try and dig out a few gems, everyone accepts form will fluctuate but if you hit serious relegation form then it's out the door. If Kettlewell had just signed a few competent players on permanent deals to go into the starting 11 this summer he wouldn't be in this position. I don't think it's overly ambitious to hope for a manager who understands that starting SOD and Bair every week will get you into relegation trouble.
SOD didn’t start today though and it was one of the worst performances we’ve had for a long time. You seem to have an issue with SOD, which is fair enough, but at least get the basic facts right.
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6 minutes ago, Benson said:
Couldn't pass the flecking ball,hoofed it every chance he got,professionally piss poor even with 10 mins,rather a youth player on for 10 mins.
Did you miss just about every other outfield player doing the same for the other 80 minutes? Hoofing the ball was obviously Kettlewell’s tactic for the game. Players were literally taking a touch and then launching it forward to nobody.
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2 minutes ago, steelboy said:
Liam Kelly has chucked it.
The full team has chucked it.
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18 hours ago, weeyin said:
Wouldn't that make it legal to kick the ball out of his hands and/or tackle the keeper?
No, if an opponent did that it would be a foul. The match is still ongoing when the goalkeeper has the ball in his hands which is why if there is an injury, for example, the goalkeeper needs to put the ball out of play to stop the game.
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3 hours ago, Spiderpig said:
From the FA rules / laws of the game law 12
Direct and indirect free kicks and penalty kicks can only be awarded for offences committed when the ball is in play.
The ball is still in play when the keeper is holding it.
Dundee v Motherwell 6/4/2024
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I may be wrong but it could be that it’s playable just now but they’re not totally confident it will still be playable later on if there’s more rain. Either way, it’s a shambles.