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Mario Dorner, Herve Bacque, Rob Maaskant, Rab Shannon, Stevie Woods, Tony Vaughan......there are far too many to mention.

 

 

 

 

To say these are our worst siginings is jist no right.

Stevie Woods was hated but did have some (always forgotten about) fine games and did he not get capped with us?

Rab Shambles played some right good games.

 

The likes of Holmes Kaskra - who never kicked a ball, Herve Baque - who was so good - I honestly cannot remember.

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McSkimming - our record signing at one point! or Eddie May - if you count what it cost us!!!!

Depends on the criteria really.

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I wouldn't say all of those were right duffers -- a couple perhaps fell more into the "enigma" category. John Reilly seemed to find Billy's Boots every now and again and scored a couple of belting goals in his time, and my recollection of Gordon Mair is that he wasn't a bad winger until he had his confidence shattered by a crunching tackle on the main stand touchline one sunny day (can't remember who against, though).

 

I never think of Derek Murray or John Gardiner as being especially bad compared to some later candidates either, but maybe I've just blanked them out :)

Gordon "Night" Mair was one of the few players i can remember that when his name was read out in the team line up over the tannoy that caused a collective "oh naw" from the fans,as for Murray all he seemed to do was play the ball up the left wing to no one even when he had space to run into,and Gardiner he was that bad Stevie Woods was a £10m keeper in comparison.

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Slightly tangential, but just found an interesting wee article from the Times in 2008 that mentions Gordon Mair's time in the successful Notts County team of the early 80's (and what he's doing now, or was in 2008). Certainly a few decent players in that team:

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3216359.ece

 

January 20, 2008

Caught in time

Notts County promoted to the First Division, 1981

Greg Struthers

 

Notts County are going through tough times. With little money to spend, the club on the banks of the River Trent is trying to stay above the waterline in League Two. Fortunately, they still have time to remember history. On Tuesday evening the oldest professional football club in the world, founded in 1862, will honour its most successful manager, Jimmy Sirrel. The man who took them into the top division for the first time in 56 years will be presented with an oil painting of himself that has taken two years to complete.

 

Sirrel masterminded promotion to the First Division in 1981, when they finished runners-up to West Ham. The Magpies secured promotion with a 2-0 win against Chelsea in their penultimate match. At the start of the season they were quoted at 33-1 outsiders to go up; several astute players took money off the bookies.

 

“Jimmy Sirrel was a one-off,” says winger Gordon Mair. “His knowledge of football was fantastic.” Sirrel brought in Howard Wilkinson as his assistant. Trevor Christie recalls: “Howard worked the lads hard, and we were still running strongly at the end of games while other teams began to fade. Don Masson was the calming influence who could cajole the young lads.” Masson, nearing the end of his career, regards it as one of the highlights: “It was a fantastic time for the club. We were an exciting team who passed the ball and played with two wingers. We had Pedro Richards playing as a sweeper, which was unusual at that time.” Iain McCulloch, a striker, says: “We were a positive and organised side. We had a small squad, so we played with the same team almost every week, which helped.”

 

Many people thought the Magpies would struggle in the top division. They went to Aston Villa, the league champions (and about to become European champions), for their first match and won 1-0 with a goal from McCulloch. “It gave us that little bit of confidence for the rest of the season, and we were able to stay up,” says Christie.

 

1 Trevor Christie Top scorer in the promotion season with 14 goals, he was a prolific striker at Meadow Lane, with 64 goals in 187 league matches. A sales director for a company in High Wycombe, he sells labels and self-adhesives, driving 50,000 miles each year.

 

2 Eddie Kelly A Glasgow-born midfielder, Kelly had helped Arsenal win the Double and the Inter-City Fairs Cup. He had only one season for County. Now works for a double-glazing company in Torquay, where he finished his playing career.

 

3 Mick Leonard A 21-year-old understudy goalkeeper, he spent 10 years at the club, becoming the regular No 1. He played in Hong Kong and was the national goalkeeping coach in New Zealand. Coaches in Dubai.

 

4 Raddy Avramovic Signed from his hometown club, Rijeka in Croatia, he was the regular goalkeeper for four winters. He played one international for Yugoslavia. Now the Singapore national coach, he has won the Tiger Cup.

 

5 Pedro Richards He grew up in rural northern Spain before moving to England at the age of 11. A one-club defender, Richards played in 399 league games. He worked in the building trade, but died of pneumonia at the age of 45 shortly before Christmas in 2001.

 

6 Rachid Harkouk Known as Rash the Smash because of his propensity for long shots, Harkouk was born in Chelsea and joined County from QPR at the start of the season. He played for Algeria in the 1986 World Cup finals in Mexico. He has business interests in the Nottinghamshire village of Burton Joyce.

 

7 Jack Wheeler A goalkeeper whose career straddled the war, he joined the club in 1957 and filled 10 roles including manager, coach, trainer and scout. Wheeler, 88, retired in 1983, having watched more than 1,000 consecutive first-team matches.

 

8 David Hunt One of three ever-presents in the promotion season, the midfielder spent 11 seasons at Meadow Lane. A £40,000 signing from Derby County, he later joined Aston Villa. He runs the David Hunt Soccer Schools academy, coaching kids in Ashby.

 

9 Gary Wood A Kettering defender, he played 11 league games, but is not in touch with the club.

 

10 Brian Kilcline Another ever-present, the powerful defender formed the backbone of the defence in four seasons with County. Known as Killer, he captained Coventry to victory in the 1987 FA Cup final and was Kevin Keegan’s first and most important signing in his first spell as Newcastle manager. He lives on a barge in the Midlands and does home renovations in Yorkshire. He is also a professional arm-wrestler.

 

11 Brian Stubbs A veteran defender who played 426 games for his only league club, Stubbs helped County rise from the Fourth Division. He lives in Keyworth, where he was born, and is a painter and decorator, having also worked in building construction.

 

12 Ray O’Brien The Republic of Ireland full-back enjoyed nine seasons at Meadow Lane. Formerly manager of nonleague Corby Town and general manager of Arnold Town, he is in the printing industry in Newark.

 

13 Tristan Benjamin Born on the Caribbean island of St Kitts, Benjamin was ever-present in defence and made more than 300 appearances. He was a bus driver for Nottingham City transport and now teaches trainee bus drivers.

 

14 Mick Walker A former maths teacher, he was youth coach at County. He managed the club and is at the Leeds United youth academy.

 

15 Don Masson A skilful midfielder who had helped QPR finish runners-up in the First Division, Masson was in his second spell at Meadow Lane. He won 17 caps for Scotland. He and his wife, Brenda, ran a hotel near Trent Bridge for 15 years. They own The Grange, a five-star guesthouse in the Belvoir valley close to Newark.

 

16 Paul Hooks A 21-year-old midfielder, he broke into the first team as a teenager and in six seasons played more than 150 games. He lives in Nottingham and is a lorry driver.

 

17 Gordon Mair A Scottish schoolboy international, he joined as an apprentice and enjoyed eight years on the wing. He works in the Morrisons superstore in Bellshill, Airdrie. “It is very different from football and not the way you think it will work out,” he says.

 

18 Jimmy Sirrel Born in Glasgow, Sirrel was an inside-forward for Celtic, but enjoyed more success as a manager. He took the Magpies from the Fourth Division to the First in a spell that was broken by a short and unsuccessful stint at Sheffield United. Nearly 86, he remains a hero at Meadow Lane.

 

19 Howard Wilkinson A winger at Boston United, his role as assistant under Sirrel was his first full management job. In charge at Notts County, Sheffield Wednesday and Sunderland, he was the last English manager to win the First Division, while at Leeds in 1992. A care-taker manager of England, he is chairman of the League Managers Association.

 

20 Paul Manns A midfielder who played seven league games in two seasons, Manns was a fringe player who has lost touch with the club.

 

21 Iain McCulloch An 11-goal striker in the promotion season, McCulloch joined from Kilmarnock. A former manager of Arnold Town, he worked in insurance, then had a double-glazing business for 12 years, which closed last March. He is a delivery driver for UPS.

 

22 Jim Doherty The forward played eight games in two seasons before moving to Motherwell. His son-in-law, Craig Beattie, is a striker for West Bromwich. Doherty is a deep-sea diver, checking steel cables on oil rigs around the world.

 

ESPN Classic, Sky channel 442, will show Brian Kilcline’s Coventry against Tottenham in the 1987 FA Cup final at midnight tonight

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Willie McVie a cenre half from Clyde. I remember he took a free kick form half-way and proceeded to kick the ground before the ball with the divot flying further than the ball and injuring himself in the process. He was also one of the dirtiest players ever to wear the C&A.

 

 

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John Hendry is always going to be the worst signing ever.

 

 

 

Scored 2 goals in a resverve match and was bought about for £400,000.

 

 

:wallbash:

 

 

I think he was £200,000 and Eck told us he had learned a lot from Klinsmann, must have been how to speak German.

 

Was Joe McLeod not rated highly? I mind he stayed so far on the wing we thought we was a linesman.

who was that stiker that scored a beaty against St Johnston (?) (3-3 I think, Cooper was playing) and it got chopped off - it was his only goal - Baker ?

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big boab was a terrible signing but he sent the fans home happy from inverness so he can't be the worst signing.

 

i'd go for alan gow because not only was he incredibly shite but he kept sutton out the team and dented murphy's form. his final two appearances at celtic park and ndp were unbelievably stinking.

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