Steve Diggle Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Take him back in a heartbeat . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJ-94 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Michael Fraser released by Ross County for all those on here looking for a replacement keeper. Would be interesting to see how people would rank him against our current keepers. I would probably say on par with Hollis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Be back playing shinty before summer is out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Michael Fraser released by Ross County for all those on here looking for a replacement keeper. So has super keeper Dan Twardzik.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browni Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 So has super keeper Dan Twardzik.... http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/sport/dundee-fc/dundee-trio-set-to-be-on-their-way-out-of-dens-1.370538? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 So has super keeper Dan Twardzik.... Dan had a good 5 games with us granted but if we signed him as our first choice keeper it would not fill me with confidence. In my opinion, like Hollis, he just isn't big enough to be a world class goalie. If you are 5'11'' you need to be an unbelievable keeper like Casillas otherwise you are on a hiding to nothing. There are few times this season we have lost a goal with Hollis in nets that Randolph and Ruddy would have got to simpy because they were bigger units. I'd wager after a few games the same people clambering for him on here would be bemoaning the fact he has shipped goals too. If he does sign then I'll be behind him all the way though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim64 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Michael Fraser no thanks,Dan,s a mibbee ,rather have Gallagher from hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I'd wager after a few games the same people clambering for him on here would be bemoaning the fact he has shipped goals too. That's called the "Nielsen Effect". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 That's called the "Nielsen Effect". Only difference was we were clambering for Nielsen without even seeing him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_in_drublic Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Dan had a good 5 games with us granted but if we signed him as our first choice keeper it would not fill me with confidence. In my opinion, like Hollis, he just isn't big enough to be a world class goalie. If you are 5'11'' you need to be an unbelievable keeper like Casillas otherwise you are on a hiding to nothing. There are few times this season we have lost a goal with Hollis in nets that Randolph and Ruddy would have got to simpy because they were bigger units. I'd wager after a few games the same people clambering for him on here would be bemoaning the fact he has shipped goals too. If he does sign then I'll be behind him all the way though! I'm not convinced Twarszik is the answer either but Neilsen is a tall guy and has shipped a few shockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well 4 Europe Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Dan had a good 5 games with us granted but if we signed him as our first choice keeper it would not fill me with confidence. In my opinion, like Hollis, he just isn't big enough to be a world class goalie. If you are 5'11'' you need to be an unbelievable keeper like Casillas otherwise you are on a hiding to nothing. There are few times this season we have lost a goal with Hollis in nets that Randolph and Ruddy would have got to simpy because they were bigger units. I'd wager after a few games the same people clambering for him on here would be bemoaning the fact he has shipped goals too. If he does sign then I'll be behind him all the way though! Is that what you have to be to play in goals for Motherwell aye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Is that what you have to be to play in goals for Motherwell aye? yes that statement containing world class threw me a bit as well......................thought I had got onto the Aberdeen forum or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Is that what you have to be to play in goals for Motherwell aye? Hahaha. Fair point - didnae mean to type that! Top level goalie is what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I'm not convinced Twarszik is the answer either but Neilsen is a tall guy and has shipped a few shockers. Aye, absolutely. It's not the only criteria but it's an important one I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc88 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Technically I wouldn't say twardzik is much better than Hollis, maybe marginally. For me, where he (and most other SPL level goalies) exceed, is that he makes a decision and commits to it. This helps the defence deal with situations, gives them confidence and so on. Both our goalies seem to change their mind 2 or 3 times when coming for a cross or when choosing whether to punt or pass the ball. If for no other reason than to get a more solid keeper in, I'll take Dan back now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Jules Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Until he became a sick note for St Mirren a few months back i was all for going after Kello. Wouldn't bother now, signing injured players is a big no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I've pretty much stayed out of slaughtering our keepers over the season as it achieves little apart from stoking the fear/hate, Twardzik played the best of the three used, looked technically better, and much more confident and committed to each move or play, is he the answer, I couldn't call that I don't know what has went wrong with the other two, as both cannot be as bad as some of their on-going errors over the course. Hollis was slaughtered by some, far too early, unsteady yes but for essentially a rookie goalie at this level, he was settling in, but the fans were never going to breathe easy and it must have been very uncomfortable playing at Fir park, when gasps surround the team as he goes to play the ball, no surprise his best was shown on the road. I don't forsee any change in the general opinion on him, , despite his comeback I'd say his handling, kicking etc looked worse, and I cannot see how anyone could say he was technically on a par with Twardzik or even Nielsen! Then there is Nielsen who was turned over by McCall after a very decent showing in Russia, seems to have been a tense niggle since his arrival and playing under study, mis-guided expectations? led on? bad attitude? nae idea, seemed to get frozen out again early in the split as well, guess the goal against column justifies that, but most would say he wasn't to blame for some for the sair ones I don't know what lies ahead, but a keeper is a must, and If I had to keep one on the books for potential recovery it would be Nielsen, but then I don't know the package either receive, maybe I would be swayed if there was a significant difference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebsbarmyarmy Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I see Scott Allan has been released by WBA. Boy was a real talent. We are well stocked in Midfield but would be a decent signing if we could. In relation to keepers can we pap out Hollis and Neilsen and replace them with McDonald as no1 and Twardzik as back up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I'm pretty sure Cummins has a year left, I told him he better get his finger out at the sponsor's night. The ex-jambo keeper would do me, a very capable SPL 'keeper. Hollis to me just looks like a lower league goalie, not as focused or professional as he could be coupled with poor decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 I'm pretty sure Cummins has a year left, I told him he better get his finger out at the sponsor's night. Ill bet he told you to feck right off . If he didn't and has a great season next year you should join the coaching staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Twardzik is 6ft. Not small at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Twardzik is 6ft. Not small at all.. Is that a real 6ft or a "height for the official stats" 6ft that keepers have been known to tell porkies about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Twardzik is 6ft. Not small at all.. So is Hollis. Only an inch shorter than Randolph. When you look at the team photie he is actually a decent height. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Big scouse is good lad, the finger out comment came after we'd been chatting most of the night, all in context. The problem with him not playing at Dundee was Brown signed him and his loan was until the end of the playoffs. Hartley came in and he wasn't one of 'his' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Is that a real 6ft or a "height for the official stats" 6ft that keepers have been known to tell porkies about. Certainly does not look it when you compare both of them in nets. He is much smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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