StipeIsGod Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Sorry, but for me, he's looked like the best option in a tunnel and now cavalcade of pish. Is he really not even worth a go at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky79 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I wasn't at the game and having been away the weekend I wasn't following as closely as normal but looking at the club match report it has him down as coming on at 59 minutes for Nathan Thomas? I was under the impression he didn't feature and indeed the BBC report has Marvin Johnson down as that sub. So back to the original point and what I imagined was the case that he was overlooked, yeah I'd say you have to ask why. He has been reasonably consistent in making a positive impression coming off the bench and whilst I wouldn't knock Barraclough for putting one of his new lads on ahead of him if he is more confident in their ability, however when we're chasing a game and needing someone to try and make an impact Thomas for the moment would be near the top of my list. I got the impression the last sub was purely due to an injury, maybe it was a sop to Ainsworth for not getting on the previous week. I'd hope not as one of our bigger underperformers and high up most peoples lists of players they'd be content getting shot off I'd rather he was given the impression he needed to buck his ideas up and not be rewarded possibly with an easy bit of appearance money. Not including likes of Cummins, McHugh and Ross Stewart I make it we have 27 first team players to choose from including those currently injured I might add and I not sure on how imminent any of those returns are but I hope to fuck Barraclough has a clear plan as seeing Reid, McManus and Ramsden continue to flounder in an unbalanced looking team is concerning. I'm putting quite a bit of faith in the return of Pearson, Hammell and some relatively untested new guys that we can emerge out of this horror spell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Sorry, but for me, he's looked like the best option in a tunnel and now cavalcade of pish. Is he really not even worth a go at the moment? He's young he might not be ready to start all, or even some, of the games, but he should certainly be coming off the bench. I can understand Baraclough holding him back so we can have an impact player coming off the bench that can change the game with 20 - 25 minutes to go but I don't understand not playing him because he's been just about the only thing to enthuse over lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I never made the game, so cant really call Baraclough out on it, as he knows the full picture, regards his tactics,fitness, sharpness, desire, capability, formation etc. but without doubt, Dom Thomas deserves any game time he gets. just seems to me Baraclough is giving every single player a chance (some more than others) Baralough has used Thomas: St Mirren 5mins (debut?) Partick 0min Accies 14mins Aberdeen 20mins Dundee full debut 90mins Celtic 45mins Dundee United 0mins St johnstone 31mins Ross County 0mins I'm hoping we continue to see him used , happy for it to be a controlled development, but we need the hope a character like him delivers as much as the actual skills he brings. PS today he played 85minutes, set at least one up and scored one , in a 4-1 win Any hopes of a home comeback were dashed with with 20 minutes to go when ‘Well killed the game in style. Thomas picked the ball up 40 yards out and showed great feet to jink past two Caley defenders. He played a neat one-two with Cadden and cooly finished past Hoban to make it 4-1 and send the Steelmen home with all three points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 If he's better than what we have (evidence suggests he is) then we need to play him more! What is his contract status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Up For It! Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 What is his contract status? If he is out of contract this season, surely the club wouldn't be holding him back on that account, would they? I was at the St.Johnstone away game and he looked miles ahead of anything we have in the team. My only time seeing him in the flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Need to get him signed up asap. If we lose him for nothing in the summer heads should roll!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 If he is out of contract in the summer, then I wouldn't be surprised if he told us where to go given his lack of game time under successive managers. This is one occasion where if he continues to develop, he really is someone who could make the club some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 We wouldn't lose him for nothing if we offered him a contract as we'd be entitled to a development fee. However I don't know how long he's been with us - it was previously reported we got him from Celtic but I've also seen reports that he's been with us for donkey's years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 For what it's worth, his wiki entry says he was at the Celtic Academy before he joined us in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 So, is he out of contract this year? Or are we just creating another hypothetical situation to piss our pants about? It was mentioned on the GMs podcast that we were looking to tie up the younger players on longer deals, so I assume that's being worked on. However, we can't force folk to accept contracts so it will probably take some work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosemite sam Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 The boy reminds me of McFadden when he broke into the team. Full of confidence in his ability, and willing to run at people. Defenders don't like that kind of attacker. He is one of the young guys that deserve, and should get, a run in the team. He's exciting to watch even although he makes mistakes, he's still willing to take on the opposition again and again. Hopefully Barraclough can see what a lot of posters on here can see, and give the boy a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunn Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 He does look very promising from what I've seen of him. Hope we can sign him up on a long contract and make some money this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFCL84 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Definitely one to give us some hope, but a long way to go in his development. I'd be happy for him to get game time from the bench for now. I see him more as an impact player at this stage. Next season will be when I'd expect him to make a real impact and establish himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Definitely one to give us some hope, but a long way to go in his development. I'd be happy for him to get game time from the bench for now. I see him more as an impact player at this stage. Next season will be when I'd expect him to make a real impact and establish himself. Next season when we are in the championship you mean. If Ainsworth gets game time then Thomas should. At least you know you will get 100% from Dom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 It's a balancing act with the youngsters. They need game time, but physically they aren't necessarily ready for the demands of 90 minutes of SPFL action even every other week. Good to finally see him break through, though. The past couple of seasons he has been one of the standouts in the U20 games. As JJ said about him in one interview "he has continental feet". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 It's a balancing act with the youngsters. They need game time, but physically they aren't necessarily ready for the demands of 90 minutes of SPFL action even every other week. Good to finally see him break through, though. The past couple of seasons he has been one of the standouts in the U20 games. As JJ said about him in one interview "he has continental feet". Whit, size 44? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goggles & Flippers Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Next season when we are in the championship you mean. If Ainsworth gets game time then Thomas should. At least you know you will get 100% from Dom. I'm tending to agree with this. Ainsworth is the McFadden of season 2014/15. He came in a year later, did and job and impressed, got a deal, then went off the boil. Almost carbon copy, only difference was McFadden was trying and it wasn't happening. I can't see him being here past May unless there is a massive improvement. If we won't make anything off him as he'll be released. Therefore no reason not to play Thomas. We're in line to make something from him if he can be tied down on a Dundee Utd style contract. Which AB hinted at was going to be happening over the coming weeks. Our biggest prospects at present are Moore, Erwin, Leitch, Watt and Thomas. I hope they can all be secured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 I'm tending to agree with this. Ainsworth is the McFadden of season 2014/15. He came in a year later, did and job and impressed, got a deal, then went off the boil. Almost carbon copy, only difference was McFadden was trying and it wasn't happening. I can't see him being here past May unless there is a massive improvement. If we won't make anything off him as he'll be released. Therefore no reason not to play Thomas. We're in line to make something from him if he can be tied down on a Dundee Utd style contract. Which AB hinted at was going to be happening over the coming weeks. Our biggest prospects at present are Moore, Erwin, Leitch, Watt and Thomas. I hope they can all be secured. Ainsworth was never interested in staying here in the first place. He prevaricated over signing a contract till the last minute. You can be certain he was looking round all summer for a better deal. Then when he did sign a contract it was a 1 year contract. But over and above any other consideration is form. The facts are Dom Thomas has been doing it on and pitch when Ainsworth looks like a ghost player. For me the three best prospects to come through our youth system since McGhee were Paul Slane, Steven Lawless and now Dom Thomas. We can't afford to fuck up the development of a quality player three times in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 No way did we fuck up Slane's development - he did that all by himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 No way did we fuck up Slane's development - he did that all by himself. I accept that the Slane situation wasn't entirely the clubs fault but the point is a wider one. If the three most talented players we have produced in recent years all leave the club, for whatever reason, then there is something badly wrong with the youth set up because not only are we not producing enough talent, the talent we do produce leaves having hardly kicked a ball for us. No one, no on sensible at least, expects a conveyor belt of great talent to come out of a youth system on a regular and consistent basis, that's not how it works, but we must do everything we can to hold on to the boys we bring through that have that little bit extra. You might be right about Paul Slane, maybe he did do it all himself, but you know what I doubt very much if U20 teams are full of mature, intelligent young men with a clear and sensible idea of their career development, none of whom dream of playing for Rangers, Celtic or other bigger clubs than us. That's part of dealing with young players, and it's up to us to put in place a system where our best young players don't want to leave. Perhaps it was unavoidable with Paul Slane but again, the wider point is we can't afford 100% wastage from the three most talented players we have produced in recent years and because of that Dom Thomas should loom large in the managements thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishyWell Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 For what it's worth, his wiki entry says he was at the Celtic Academy before he joined us in 2012. I may be wrong, but I was sure he was already a Motherwell player when he played in the Lanarkshire team in the Children's games in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Genuinely more of a question than a suggestion but could Baraclough be keeping Thomas out of the limelight until he is tied down to a long-term contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I think if he's worth knowing about, which I'm convinced he is, clubs and scouts will be well aware of his potential irrespective of first feam exposure at Motherwell. Dom and Nathan Thomas both lining up against Killie tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebsbarmyarmy Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Dom Thomas sure is and he has scored already after 3 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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