Kmcalpin Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 So you want a box-to-box, hard working, defensive, creative midfielder? I'd settle just for creative right now, but they're in demand too. A bit harsh Weeyin. Iain Vigurs will do the business if A) he keeps injury free B) he is given time and space to do as he wishes and C) he has hard working energetic colleagues around him to cover for him when the team is on the backfoot. Sometimes a player fits in at a club and sometimes he doesn't. He didn't have the right team around him when with us or during his first stint at Inverness. At Ross County and currently at Inverness he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 That's kind of my point. I'd much rather have a Davie Cooper, Bobby Russell (or Vigurs) that never makes a tackle than another guy "with a good engine". I thought Vigurs was just fine with us and would have been happy to see him stay. I'm in the "build team teams around your creative players" camp and don't care if they never put in a tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Vigurs was a show-boating passenger, dogged by bad luck and with a propensity to basically jog round the centre circle while the game raged on around him. Please don't hold him up as some Pirlo-esque kind of genius. I'm not saying Vigurs is some Pirlo-esque kind of genius, I'm saying he's scored the goals this season in a handful of appearances of Johnson, Ainsworth, Gomis, Lasley, Grimshaw and Cadden combined and has the technique and vision to do things other players in this league can't. He was basically shunted out the club last season and no adequate replacement was acquired, showing up a rather shambolic transfer policy at the club that goes back through Baraclough and McCall. The twist was Lawless, one of the best products of our youth development in the last 10 years, scoring the winner....for Partick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Vigurs was an excellent player, ruined by a manager who signed him, but actually hadn't a clue where or how to play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Stall Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 The twist was Lawless, one of the best products of our youth development in the last 10 years, scoring the winner....for Partick. If one of the best products of our youth development can only make the grade at Partick Thistle, then our youth development policy needs seriously revamped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I think Lawless is decent but I wouldn't have him up as 1 of the best in the last 10 years. His best season for Partick was his first when they were in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshillWell Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Lawless was behind Murphy, Higdon, McFadden and Higgingbottom if I remember correctly, but we still retained Mchugh during that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 The twist was Lawless, one of the best products of our youth development in the last 10 years, scoring the winner....for Partick. Here we go again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'm not saying Vigurs is some Pirlo-esque kind of genius, I'm saying he's scored the goals this season in a handful of appearances of Johnson, Ainsworth, Gomis, Lasley, Grimshaw and Cadden combined and has the technique and vision to do things other players in this league can't. He was basically shunted out the club last season and no adequate replacement was acquired, showing up a rather shambolic transfer policy at the club that goes back through Baraclough and McCall. The twist was Lawless, one of the best products of our youth development in the last 10 years, scoring the winner....for Partick. You don't half talk shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 You don't half talk shite. I don't agree with the original poster either, but come on Graeme you are well capable of posting better comments than this. Lets try and promote sensible informed discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I agree with the description of Vigurs a few pages back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I saw Lawless play on a number of occasions when the 20s played at Bathgate ,a good player but at the time we had better. He moved tae Thistle and has done well for himself, but this "why did we ever let him go" talk is rubbish. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I saw Lawless play on a number of occasions when the 20s played at Bathgate ,a good player but at the time we had better. He moved tae Thistle and has done well for himself, but this "why did we ever let him go" talk is rubbish. Snap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmfc Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Unbelievable that people would think Iain Vigurs would save the day.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 This Vigurs and Lawless chat is a lot of shite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 This Vigurs and Lawless chat is a lot of shite Sorry I won't mention it again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldonmac Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Sorry I won't mention it again . Mention what again Postie Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'm not usually one to mourn ex players,but the way we handled Vigurs was bizarre. When actually played in position, he'd be one of the most talented footballers in our team -exactly what we're missing right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 That's kind of my point. I'd much rather have a Davie Cooper, Bobby Russell (or Vigurs) that never makes a tackle than another guy "with a good engine". Is Faddy not "that guy" and he's barely got off our bench. Vigurs undoubtedly has talent, but for a number of reasons only showed it in brief flashes at Motherwell. He's a poor mans Gary Harkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatsy Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Vigurs love is baffling me, IMO he was lazy generally crap and a wage thief who fained injury for 6 months when we were in dire straights last season. Was well glad when we got shot of him. Not interested in playing for the jersey at all 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 This Vigurs and Lawless chat is a lot of shite Come on Busta you can do better than that I'm sure. Folk are quite entitled to discuss this if they so wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Com on Busta you can do better than that I'm sure. Folk are quite entitled to discuss this if they so wish. I completely agree and I would never stop folk from doing so! However these two particular targets have been done till death. I am a firm believer in folk "finding their place". Vigurs never worked for us barring a few flashes. Good goal here, a great pass here there. He had very few good matches and even less great matches. Lawless never got a sniff. went out and has settled in very well by all accounts. He wasn't getting near the team. ( I can only mind 1 appearance) He needed to go and learn elsewhere. If he stayed where he was he may have stagnated. Thistle could offer him a chance at first team football where he then progressed to a decent player. It's been done, discussed till the cows come home. The fact a deflected shot went in last night doesn't mean Lawless is the one that got away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Com on Busta you can do better than that I'm sure. Folk are quite entitled to discuss this if they so wish. Just realised... I fell for that, Didn't I? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Can we drop all this ex player chat vigurs, lawless etc and concentrate on the players who are at the club now. Personally i dont give a feck about what a player does or how he plays after he leaves the club. We have enough issues with our own players to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermarv Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Simon church scored on his debut against celtic for Aberdeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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