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Twardzik looked fucking woeful. Punching away shots that he should be catching, sliding in and completely missing the ball, leaving his centre half to clear off the line.

 

It genuinely frightens me when someone takes a shot from 25 yards. Even down the middle he fuckin' misses them, like the lad hitting the bar the other day.

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Wonderful little move and pass from Dom Thomas early in the second half vs heerenveen, from what looked like a central pressing position. What a bonus it would be if Dom could apply his obvious skill and trickery as a number 10 position, we have no one else at the club with the ability to give us this option (unless McDonald returns).

 

Josh Law and Ainsworth giving number 10 a go last season are a reminder of McCall running right out of ideas and inspiration.

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Dom Thomas provided some excitement last season at times when we really needed something to spark our hopes. He was also aabsolutely woeful against Thistle when given the chance to impress. He needs to kick on next season and take his chances when he gets them. Hopefully in an attacking team he'll get the chance and space ne needs.

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Dom Thomas provided some excitement last season at times when we really needed something to spark our hopes. He was also aabsolutely woeful against Thistle when given the chance to impress. He needs to kick on next season and take his chances when he gets them. Hopefully in an attacking team he'll get the chance and space ne needs.

Last season Ian Baraclough rightly saw him as an impact player. As you say he now needs to step up a gear. He'll need to put on a bit of weight and muscle though - last season he was bundled off the ball a bit too easily. Hopefully that'll come though with some weight training.

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In all honesty the guy would be better leaving he could go through the season without conceding and folk on here would still say he's too small,no good,alright for a backup.

 

Why would he be better leaving? Because of what some fans on a message board say?

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I can't understand the love some folk have for Dan. He isn't good enough yet he makes a couple of bog standard saves and folk call him a "good shot stopper" and seem to forget that's the minor requirement for any goalkeeper. He has had two decent spells. his loan spell and about the begining of December '14 (he was great in a few games then to be fair) but we need a better option in my opinion!

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To be fair, he was good enough for our level last season.

Not sure how to take your comment Weeyin. If you implying that he matches our league position ie 11th then I agree. if we want to target 10th position or better then we need a new keeper.

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Nothing against Dan and this post isn't meant to be putting the boot in, clearly there are tons of different variables involved in the way last season went and by no means can you put it all down to the GK position, that would be both unreasonable and a bit mental. As folk have said he clearly has positive attributes and there's nothing to say he can't develop into a decent goalkeeper maybe even a good one however at the moment he's nowhere near the level to be considered a first choice 'keeper.

 

It's maybe unfair to single out one mistake in a game he otherwise did well in but 3:32 on the club highlights vs Heerenveen last week is as much a reminder as anything of why he doesn't seem to instil confidence in the defenders in front of him. (He comes flying out for a lofted through ball, completely misses his punch and the centre half has to take the ball off the line).

 

Yes, it was only a friendly, yes it ended 0-0, yes he seemed to otherwise have a good game but those are the sort of mistakes that he's prone to (and is clearly still making) and ultimately they're the sort of mistakes that result in us conceding soft goals.

 

As prone as Long was to a mistake (the ones he conceded away to Aberdeen were up there with the OG Dan conceded away to Dundee in the 4-1 game), nevertheless if you compare the record of the 2 'keepers in the league under Baraclough (not including the play-off games vs Sevco) we conceded less with Long than we did with Dan (1.3 goals per game with Long over 13 games, 2.1 goals per game with Dan over 9 games). We also picked up more points with Long in goals than with Dan with 17 points in 13 games (1.3 per game) vs 8 points in 9 games (0.8 per game). For what it's worth, that's not to be read as an argument for having Long back it's just an observation on how things compared.

 

The obvious caveat there is that Long was part of a hastily rebuilt team and the argument would be if Dan had the benefit of Laing, Pearson, Johnson & McDonald in the team he was part of then results may well have played out the same or better, who knows, but on a very basic level it'd appear that despite our defence being shambolic even with Long in goal we improved in terms of goals conceded and points gained when Dan was replaced.

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Not sure how to take your comment Weeyin. If you implying that he matches our league position ie 11th then I agree. if we want to target 10th position or better then we need a new keeper.

Aye, I meant Dan performed at the same level as a numbet of the other culprits who took us to 11th. I was never a fan and always argued during his loan spell that he benefited from us going on a good run rather than being responsible for it (as some on here claimed).

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Not sure how to take your comment Weeyin. If you implying that he matches our league position ie 11th then I agree. if we want to target 10th position or better then we need a new keeper.

 

We weren't 11th when he was dropped. Might need to re-think that comment Kmcalpin.

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We weren't 11th when he was dropped. Might need to re-think that comment Kmcalpin.

No? I'm not saying he was the reason we finished in 11th position - far more deeper rooted and wider factors than that. What Weeyin said and I am agreeing with is that Dan Twardzik is of a standard consistent with the team finishing in 11th position. In other words he is of a bottom Premiership level. If we want to finish higher than 11th this campaign then we need to sign a better standard of keeper as a start. Other positions also require strengthening - indeed a start may already have been made.

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Nothing against Dan and this post isn't meant to be putting the boot in, clearly there are tons of different variables involved in the way last season went and by no means can you put it all down to the GK position, that would be both unreasonable and a bit mental. As folk have said he clearly has positive attributes and there's nothing to say he can't develop into a decent goalkeeper maybe even a good one however at the moment he's nowhere near the level to be considered a first choice 'keeper.

 

It's maybe unfair to single out one mistake in a game he otherwise did well in but 3:32 on the club highlights vs Heerenveen last week is as much a reminder as anything of why he doesn't seem to instil confidence in the defenders in front of him. (He comes flying out for a lofted through ball, completely misses his punch and the centre half has to take the ball off the line).

 

Yes, it was only a friendly, yes it ended 0-0, yes he seemed to otherwise have a good game but those are the sort of mistakes that he's prone to (and is clearly still making) and ultimately they're the sort of mistakes that result in us conceding soft goals.

 

As prone as Long was to a mistake (the ones he conceded away to Aberdeen were up there with the OG Dan conceded away to Dundee in the 4-1 game), nevertheless if you compare the record of the 2 'keepers in the league under Baraclough (not including the play-off games vs Sevco) we conceded less with Long than we did with Dan (1.3 goals per game with Long over 13 games, 2.1 goals per game with Dan over 9 games). We also picked up more points with Long in goals than with Dan with 17 points in 13 games (1.3 per game) vs 8 points in 9 games (0.8 per game). For what it's worth, that's not to be read as an argument for having Long back it's just an observation on how things compared.

 

The obvious caveat there is that Long was part of a hastily rebuilt team and the argument would be if Dan had the benefit of Laing, Pearson, Johnson & McDonald in the team he was part of then results may well have played out the same or better, who knows, but on a very basic level it'd appear that despite our defence being shambolic even with Long in goal we improved in terms of goals conceded and points gained when Dan was replaced.

Did you see the saves Dan made, that's because 10 players made mistakes every single time.

 

It ended 0-0 because the ten players in ftont of Dan made countless mistakes. See next game count the...

 

Missed tackles

Miss placed passes

Missed attempts at goal

 

We ended where we were because our defenders were pish, our midfielers were worse and our strikers at times couldn't hit a barn door. Long before the keeper even comes into it. If the keeper makes a save some fucker hasn't done their job properly.

 

Also we need a new keeper, because we suck and bringing through our own more than anything.

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12 fucking quid. All friendlies should either be free or no more than a fiver. They are always utter drivel to watch, have no atmosphere and descend into a farce at half time as they will bring on about 8 new players.

 

Honestly 12 fucking quid!

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