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I'd heard (from someone who knew Softy) that in Tommy McLean's last couple of seasons, every player was on £15,000 a year and an alleged £450 a point bonus and further league position bonuses. The only differences between players was supposed to be in signing on fees.

I remember that kind of structure being rumoured under McLean.

 

I also remember Jimmy Sanderson going mental on Radio Clyde when he heard that a McLean team was on a bigger bonus for beating Killie (a relegation rival at the time) than they were for beating the OF.

Tommy Coyne confirmed there was a wage cap when he arrived at the club in the excellent interview for the podcast book off air 2 - clicky

 

“When I first arrived at Fir Park there was a wage-cap in place,I liked that –

there was no huge difference between the wages of our players and I think it helped the team spirit that we were all treated equally.”

 

 

Actually on that note, get ordering Off-air 3 - limited print run click here

 

The quality of the first two has been outstanding and all the profits from this one go the Well society and will be doubled with the Les Hutchison double money offer

 

 

Anyone notice Faddy signed a deal at Queen of the South :cheese:

 

Edit: Faddy and Tommy Coyne m'lord in one post - I can leave the internet now

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Billy Davis demonstrates, in one interview, why he has been unemployable as a manager for the past 3 years.

 

“In December 2014 some people were touting me for the Rangers job,” he told The Times. “So what they did was, they hit the Rangers forums, and they wrote nasty things about me there. My agent was told by a Rangers board member that the reason why Rangers did not come and get me, was because of these accusations.

 

“Then you get these ex-pros coming along and saying, ‘Don’t touch Billy Davies, it must be terrible working with Davies.’ Look, I know these people aren’t just writing these things off their own back. We knew what was going on, I’ve been showing this to my legal people. I’ve been gathering all this (evidence) for three years now. I know what’s been happening.”

 

He continued: “What they decided to do in their smearing is identify the bottom six EPL clubs, and some English Championship clubs that they know I would go to. They’ve sat down and identified these clubs. Plus, throw in the only club in Scotland - Glasgow Rangers - they identified them as well. Just look at the comments on these forums from certain people, during the process when Rangers were starting to pick a new manager. You can see it clearly.

 

“These people identified a certain level of club that they knew Billy Davies was suited for - EPL Clubs, ten Championship clubs, one Scottish club. They have targeted 16, 17 clubs. That’s what they’ve done with their lies, their smears.”

 

Davies has spent the last three years pursuing a breach of contract from his time at Forest, while gathering evidence against the people he feels have wronged him.

 

He is now ready to get back into management but not with a club deemed “beneath” him.

 

“I will not jump back in to a St Mirren, a Dundee United, a Hearts, with all due respect to these clubs. I know I am a very good football manager. I will not take a jump back into football and take a job that is beneath me.”

Conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy, they're beneath me, conspiracy, conspiracy, I'm brilliant.

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Billy Davis demonstrates, in one interview, why he has been unemployable as a manager for the past 3 years.

 

 

Conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy, they're beneath me, conspiracy, conspiracy, I'm brilliant.

 

What a complete and utter cunt !

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Billy Davis demonstrates, in one interview, why he has been unemployable as a manager for the past 3 years.

 

 

Conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy, they're beneath me, conspiracy, conspiracy, I'm brilliant.

 

Billy Davies loves talking about Billy Davies in the third person. But if third person Billy is also talking about Billy in the third person, does that make Billy third person cubed, or just a jakey unemployable arsehole like Billy!

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Paul Lawson now manager at Formatine Utd.

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ive-been-kicked-out-whatsapp-11185841

 

 

 

I've been kicked out of the WhatsApp group by my former team-mates: New Formantine gaffer Paul Lawson on life as a manager

 

Despite a 10-year career as a full-time pro with St Johnstone, Ross County, St Mirren and Motherwell, Lawson is right where he always thought he would be in the end
BYGORDON WADDELL
06:00, 17 SEP 2017
SPORT
Paul Lawson says he's back where he belongs
Paul Lawson learned his trade among the best at Celtic Park, chasing the teenage dream he never could quite catch.
Turns out it was actually his days as an ankle-biter at Christie Park that set him up better for what lies ahead.
Forget the 60,000 seats at Parkhead and towering stands that shake to their foundations on European nights.
The little 270-seat ground in Huntly was Lawson’s football utopia when he was a boy growing up.
He was a permanent fixture at the ground as the Aberdeenshire side swept all before them up north in the 90s with his dad Willie at Stevie Paterson’s side in the dugout.
Now he’s taking his first seat in a Highland League dugout himself at 33, exactly a decade after leaving the Hoops.
Lawson has taken on the manager’s job at Formartine United.
He has been a part-time player at United for the past two seasons and will be assisted by his brother-in-law and Aberdeen legend Russell Anderson.
And despite a 10-year career as a full-time pro with St Johnstone, Ross County, St Mirren and Motherwell, Lawson is right where he always thought he would be in the end.
Lawson in his Motherwell days
A little early with the arrival time maybe – but with no less ambition than he ever had.
Lawson, who earned 10 Scotland Under-21 caps, said: “I was brought up watching the Highland League.
“I’ve always said I wanted to play in the league even if I did think that would be in my late 30s.
“Now I’m managing in it. I’ve already had a few texts asking if I can match my dad’s feats – so we’ll see.
“When I was eight and nine years old those Huntly boys were my heroes. I’d watch them every Saturday.
“I remember signing for Celtic and sitting in the changing room.
Lawson is ready for life in the dugout
“They’d all be talking about going to Celtic Park every week.
“And I’d be, ‘Well I went to Christie Park every week!’
“But watching Huntly meant the same to me as watching Celtic did for them.
“I would never change that. It has stood me in good stead for my professional career as well as my
management career now.”
Lawson was the classic rainbow chaser at a big club as a kid.
He believed the pot of football gold was just around every corner but found it further out of reach the closer he got.
Training every day under Martin O’Neill and Gordon Strachan with Henrik Larsson, Shunsuke Nakamura and Stan Petrov, life was good.
But one start and three appearances off the bench by the age of 23 eventually made him realise he was playing at it, not living it.
He said: “I was chasing the dream. I snuck onto the bench a couple of times under O’Neill.
“After that I was in and around the first team, training with them every day, part of Gordon Strachan’s squad.
“I was clinging on to the hope of making it. But ultimately I wasn’t good enough to play in that team.
“I wouldn’t change anything in the sense that I was fortunate enough to still have a good career.
“My only regret is that I had a chance to go on loan at Morton when I was 18 or 19 – but turned it down.
“It was only when I eventually went out on loan to St Johnstone when I was 22 that I really felt like a footballer.
“I was preparing for a game on a Saturday afternoon instead of playing on a Tuesday afternoon in front of
no-one at Airdrie in an Under-20s game. That’s the biggest thing in the game. I’ve tried to say that to boys down the years since. Go out and play real football.
“It doesn’t matter what level, you’ll still learn more from it.
“My granda always used to drum it into me. No matter what profession you’re in, you want to learn with the best.
“And I believe I did that, I learned at the best club in the country. You speak to boys who are mad Celtic fans and they’ll tell you their hero is Henrik.
“I can tell them I trained with him every day.
“That’s something I wouldn’t change but I would have done other things slightly differently.
“We’re all brilliant in hindsight though, eh?”
Lawson’s new job is all about foresight though.
Admitted to the Highland League eight years ago, Formartine United –based in Pitmedden on Aberdeen’s periphery – have invested heavily under chairman Atholl Cadger.
But by Lawson’s own admission, despite finishing second in the league twice in the past five years, he feels they’ve underachieved.
Lawson never made the grade at Celtic
Before he took the job he wanted assurances there was still ambition to be a senior side at the club’s core.
He has heard all the rumours since the play-offs kicked in that the Highland League sides were in their comfort
zone and didn’t want the hassle of a national profile.
But as a player for six years with Ross County, he has seen the benefits of a side prepared to do the graft to get to the top from humble beginnings.
He said: “I joined County in the third tier – the old Second Division – and got all the way up to the Premier League with them.
“So I’ve seen a club do it the hard way from the Highland League up.
“Look at them now. They’re a mainstay in the top flight. No one would have believed that 15 years ago.
“The way they’ve restructured the leagues now, it’s there to be done.
“It’s a conversation I had with the chairman, whether they’re ambitious enough to go for promotion and get into the league – and he is.
“That was important to me. I’ve heard all the accusations.
“They’ve been thrown at a couple of the Highland League teams recently that they weren’t interested in going up once they got into the play-offs.
“I don’t know for sure. When you speak to the players, they’re keen enough to go up. But it’s a question I asked and thankfully our board feel the same.
“You’re in the game to win things. Formartine have probably under-achieved for the players who have been at the club.
“I’m part of that, I’ve been there the past couple of years.
“I feel for the chairman because he’s invested a lot. So I want to pay him back a bit on both sides of the touchline.”
Lawson’s move to become part-time after two injury-plagued years under Stuart McCall at Motherwell came as a shock to his system.
But now settled back in the north east and working in sales for Pentland Freight, he has a firm grasp on what kind of manager he wants to be for his players.
He said: “I was sitting with Russell the other night, going through all the bosses we’d played for.
“What we’d learned from them.
“Guys like Jimmy Calderwood, whom we both played for and had great experiences with.
“And McCall was one of the best man managers I’ve ever met as well. But you want to be your own person as well. And it has to be enjoyable. I understand that now – I didn’t before.
“I was a pro all my career and it was a shock when I first went part-time.
“I couldn’t get my head around it when someone missed training.
“But as time has gone on you realise the commitment it takes when the guys are part-time, working shifts or whatever.
“I had a terrible last couple of years with injuries at Motherwell though so it has rekindled my appreciation for actually playing the game.
“A lot of people questioned why I went down this route.
“Moving back to Aberdeen was just massive for me as was playing again on a Saturday.
“Being honest, management wasn’t in my thoughts.
“But the club asked me and it’s too good an opportunity to turn down.
“I want to keep playing and they were happy to support me. I wanted Russell in as No.2 and agreed that too.
“I also want Jerry O’Driscoll to stay on as his experience will be huge for us.
“And I need the lads in the dressing room to be on board. They seem to be receptive enough but I’ve been kicked out of the WhatsApp group chat already.
“That was a blow at first but I’m guessing it’s a good sign…”
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