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12 hours ago, ropy said:

Scott McDonald is now a Head Coach at Gold Coast Knights, what can go wrong?

If he nags the players as much off the pitch as he does on it, he could do OK.

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On 8/25/2021 at 10:34 AM, mfcdez said:

Young yins nowadays that complain about plastic parks don't know they're born. Bring back the old 'blaize' parks, there was even an old black ash one I remember used to be in Blantyre.

Going to school the next day with your trousers stuck to the seeping wounds on your leg. That'll show them how real men learned the game !!

The black ash one in Hillhouse was more forgiving than the red ash - I still have the scar on my left knee from my first attempt at a red-ash-sliding-tackle.

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The red ash one down the old Palace grounds was my favourite.

Combined with a gym teacher who thought it a good idea to use a scrubbing brush to get rid of any ash stuck in your cuts/grazes after a sliding tackle followed by a good dose of pure dettol it was life defining.

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1 hour ago, santheman said:

The red ash one down the old Palace grounds was my favourite.

Combined with a gym teacher who thought it a good idea to use a scrubbing brush to get rid of any ash stuck in your cuts/grazes after a sliding tackle followed by a good dose of pure dettol it was life defining.

Ahh remember it well small scrubbing brush and dettol…..kill or cure….

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Callum Lang with the winner for Wigan today, I think he is a much better  player than what we saw from him during his time at Fir Park.

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11 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

Callum Lang with the winner for Wigan today, I think he is a much better  player than what we saw from him during his time at Fir Park.

To be honest he hit the ground running as soon as he returned to Wigan during last season. 

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On 8/25/2021 at 5:38 PM, C&A not the shop said:

Thats essentially what I'm saying. He was a perfectly decent mid table SPL keeper who made a few howlers.

Better than the likes of Neilsen, Hollis etc. Not as good as Randolph, Carson, Kelly etc.

Woods would have been great if there wasn't any such thing as crossing in the game.

Unfortunately there is.

He was quite good at saving penalties as I remember but he was hopeless on high balls and had the occasionally butter hands with shots straight at him.  Replacing Dykstra who was excellent on crosses probably didn't do Woods any favours.

If you look at his appearances he lost his place about half a dozen times in the team and then came back in when other goalkeepers moved on. 

Scott Howie was a massive improvement.  Unfortunately when he came in the rest of the team wasn't as good.

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As someone alluded to the other day, I think his comedic histrionics set him aside for particularly affectionate praise, but I don't honestly recall Dyskstra being that massively great back in the day to be honest, certainly not the levels remembered on here by some.

Perhaps those who came and went before have pictured him in a higher regard due to the immediate comparisons.

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34 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

Woods would have been great if there wasn't any such thing as crossing in the game.

Jim Leighton made a successful career out of never coming for a cross.  He just let Big Eck or Rougvie take care of them.

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1 hour ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

He was quite good at saving penalties as I remember but he was hopeless on high balls and had the occasionally butter hands with shots straight at him.  8

I remember him for 2 things: horrific blunders and never coming off his line for high balls.

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Wouldn't make my top 5 of worst Motherwell keepers.

(Although to be fair, John Gardiner is in there 3 times).

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2 hours ago, KirkySuperSub said:

As someone alluded to the other day, I think his comedic histrionics set him aside for particularly affectionate praise, but I don't honestly recall Dyskstra being that massively great back in the day to be honest, certainly not the levels remembered on here by some.

Perhaps those who came and went before have pictured him in a higher regard due to the immediate comparisons.

I have to wholeheartedly disagree with this.

Sieb was up there with one of the best goalkeepers we have had.

He was a good shotstopper, but his prowess on cross balls into the box was almost ridiculous, Hence the shout "Sieeeeeeeeb!" I agree he did endear himself to the fans to an extemt and wee Tommys chagrain for his penchant for dribbling out of his box and he did make the occasional mistake which tended to be of the howler variety, but to suggest he wasnt a very good goalkeeper just doesnt sit right with me.....

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1 minute ago, joewarkfanclub said:

I have to wholeheartedly disagree with this.

Sieb was up there with one of the best goalkeepers we have had.

He was a good shotstopper, but his prowess on cross balls into the box was almost ridiculous, Hence the shout "Sieeeeeeeeb!" I agree he did endear himself to the fans to an extemt and wee Tommys chagrain for his penchant for dribbling out of his box and he did make the occasional mistake which tended to be of the howler variety, but to suggest he wasnt a very good goalkeeper just doesnt sit right with me.....

Maybe my (lack of) memory.

I like football, but I ain't no football analyst, I don't go into detail like the punters on here, hence why I don't post much on here.

But to say one of our best goalkeepers, we seriously comparing Seib to Randolph, Ruddy, Carson, Gillespie...if so, my mind has taken leave of its senses...!

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9 hours ago, KirkySuperSub said:

Maybe my (lack of) memory.

I like football, but I ain't no football analyst, I don't go into detail like the punters on here, hence why I don't post much on here.

But to say one of our best goalkeepers, we seriously comparing Seib to Randolph, Ruddy, Carson, Gillespie...if so, my mind has taken leave of its senses...!

Its all about opinions mate.

Remember goalkeeping has changed a lot in 30 years.

The goalkeepers you have listed are all very good goalkeepers in the modern era.

My dad always raved about Keith Macrae, but Im too young to remember him actually playing. My memories are of Stewart Rennie, Hugh Sproat and then a long line of others who were dubious at best. Maxy was a very good goalkeeper, but we barely felt his loss when Sieb arrived. Sieb also got a good move to Dundee United out of it (may even have been wee Tommy that took him there).

My memory may be playing tricks on me, it may just be the pornstar moustache, the maverick dribbling out of his box, but in my memory at least he deserves to be in the group that you mention togather with Ally Maxwell.

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Dykstra replaced Billy Thompson in the first team. Billy was certainly not the worst keeper we ever had, but he was another who did not like to leave the sanctuary of his line for a cross. Dykstra was a genuine step up in quality both in this regard, he definitely commanded the penalty box, and as a shot stopper. He was also fortunate to come into a side which was on an upward curve. Throw in the porn star looks and he had cult status written all over him. He was a good player, by our standards, but the fact that he never went on to muchigger and better things when he got his big move to England probably confirms that he was over rated by our support. Nothing wrong with that, of course. The affection in which a players held should not always be solely reliant on ability alone.

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13 minutes ago, The African said:

Dykstra replaced Billy Thompson in the first team. Billy was certainly not the worst keeper we ever had, but he was another who did not like to leave the sanctuary of his line for a cross. Dykstra was a genuine step up in quality both in this regard, he definitely commanded the penalty box, and as a shot stopper. He was also fortunate to come into a side which was on an upward curve. Throw in the porn star looks and he had cult status written all over him. He was a good player, by our standards, but the fact that he never went on to muchigger and better things when he got his big move to England probably confirms that he was over rated by our support. Nothing wrong with that, of course. The affection in which a players held should not always be solely reliant on ability alone.

Cheers. Id forgotten about "The Fish".....

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2 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:

 Sieb also got a good move to Dundee United out of it (may even have been wee Tommy that took him there).

 

Did Sieb not get a move to QPR before he ended up at Dundee United 

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30 minutes ago, wellwell91 said:

Did Sieb not get a move to QPR before he ended up at Dundee United 

Yes that’s where he left us to go to I’m sure. It was indeed Tommy McLean who also took him to Dundee United in 1996.

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If the stats are right, Dijkstra played surprisingly few games during his career, other than his time with us and Dundee Utd. Obviously, wee Tommy rated him far higher than his other managers.

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2 hours ago, Pettywulliegrew-2 said:

Callum Lang ,Ben Hennigan,and Christy Manzinga amongst the goals yesterday 

And Harry Smith. Are we including him as a former player? 

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2 hours ago, wellwell91 said:

Did Sieb not get a move to QPR before he ended up at Dundee United 

My memory appears to have bigger holes than our defence!

Maybe I did just imagine that he was any good! :P

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I'll always remember big Sieb for a midweek win against Rangers at Fir Park when he was on top form. 

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8 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:

My memory appears to have bigger holes than our defence!

Maybe I did just imagine that he was any good! :P

Your memory is fine, and so was big Sieb.

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I cannae mind what I had for dinners last week, so probably mine that's hazy...

In order, my memories of big Sieb in general rank as...

(1) Pornstar looks

(2) Swinging on the bar 

(3) Multi-coloured polka dot keeper top

(4) Goalkeeping abilities

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