Wellfan84 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Anyone got any idea whats happening with Luka Belic? noticed he was at the calendar event but still no appearences for the first team and only one for the 20s. Injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Remember reading a post suggesting there was a non injury issue with him and "it'd all come out eventually". Quite curious to hear what the crack is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezz Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Yeah there certainly seems to be something strange going on. I seem to remember some comments on one of the MFC Mixlr commentary suggesting we won't see him in a Motherwell shirt. Maybe he's secured a permanent move somewhere from West Ham in January and isn't played incase he picks up an injury and scuppers the move? Doesn't really explain why he's still here though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 It seems that he's destined to go into the history books as one of those weird signings we get every now & then. A quiz question for the future no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 If he's never gonna play, why is he here? Ship him back. Makes zero sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Safe to assume he'll not be having his loan extended past January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Some of the more in the know posters did say early on he wouldn't be seen in a well shirt. As it was a short term loan done on at the end of the window I am assuming (maybe wrongly) there was little to no financial impact on us. So not overly worried but it is odd. More worrying is the lack of appearances by Blyth given he is here longer term. Not on the bench, not playing in the 20s.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 There's no mystery with Belic. Everyone who has seen him play says he is well below the standard required. Blyth looked sub Casagolda in his sub appearances. Bowman doesn't look too clever either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 There's no mystery with Belic. Everyone who has seen him play says he is well below the standard required. Blyth looked sub Casagolda in his sub appearances. Bowman doesn't look too clever either. Belic I can't really comment on as he hasn't played any first team matches and I missed his U20 foray. Blyth has only played about 40mins of first team football. So, I don't particularly want to judge him solely on that. Many players have taken more than 40mins to show what they are about. That said, one thing for sure is they must not be doing enough in training - be it their skill, fitness or mindset. Or all 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Not just Belic, I seen someone mention on p&b that 6 of McGhees 9 summer signings didn't kick a ball on Saturday. It's the same most weeks. That's a lot of players signed and picking up a salary that aren't contributing. If we want to bring anyone in in Jenuary a few will need to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 To be fair Lucas and McHugh are injured and one is the sub goalie. Bowman, Blyth and Belic the others? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I generally think that anything around fifty percent success rate with new signings is pretty good for a manager. The problem now is the transfer window as, in the past, a player who was not cutting the mustard could be quickly and quietly moved on whereas now they have to wait it out and then have only limited time to get sorted in a period of frenetic activity when loads of guys are looking for new clubs and contracts. Just another change to the transfer/contract situation that doesn't really seem to work in favour of a club our size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I generally think that anything around fifty percent success rate with new signings is pretty good for a manager. The problem now is the transfer window as, in the past, a player who was not cutting the mustard could be quickly and quietly moved on whereas now they have to wait it out and then have only limited time to get sorted in a period of frenetic activity when loads of guys are looking for new clubs and contracts. Just another change to the transfer/contract situation that doesn't really seem to work in favour of a club our size. Also, given the injuries and the start/stop nature of the league so far it's been difficult for the new guys to esablish any sort of consistency. He has also given some of the U20s game time, so difficult to complain about that. Like you say, though, 50% would be a good return for most managers in any league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 We can only assume that he was brought in on loan to develop himself and benefit the team as a whole he has never been seen in any capacity so there must be something going on either he is shit which begs the question why was he signed in the 1st place or he has an attitude issue and thats why hes not been seen so in that case safe to assume he will be hunted in January. Either way not a very good signing and seems to be a waste of a wage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I guess most of us will never know thr story. Feels very much like a last minute offer to take him, we had a look at some craftily edited video and just took a punt. I would assume if we did that there was no real risk/cost on our side. However could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I guess most of us will never know thr story. Feels very much like a last minute offer to take him, we had a look at some craftily edited video and just took a punt. I would assume if we did that there was no real risk/cost on our side. However could be wrong. As you say, we'll never know but on the face of it it's not *that* difficult to imagine why we'd take him on for 6 months; West Ham/agent: "Would you like to take a highly rated West Ham academy player on loan for 6 months? He plays as a forward/attacking midfielder and is capped through the age groups at international level and currently has 11 u19 caps." Us: "Sure, why not." I mentioned over on P&B in a discussion on this season's transfers but looking at McGhee's quotes about Belic when he signed (essentially an appropriation of Terry Westley's when he signed for West Ham) it sounds like Belic was brought in as a squad player or someone for us to have a look at. The fact that the quotes attributed to McGhee look cribbed from the West Ham site lend some weight to the idea that it's been a last minute punt though (especially when you compare with Bowman who we had up at the 7-0 game at Parkhead and who was Martin Foyle's top scorer when he was managing Hereford United in 2012/13 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_Hereford_United_F.C._season ) McGhee 31/08/16: "Luka is a wiry forward who can play through the middle or on the flanks. He works extremely hard, particularly without the ball and knows where the net is. He'll give us competition in that area." http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2016/08/31/well-sign-hammers-starlet-belic/ Westley 13/09/15: "We'd watched him a few times, he's enthusiastic, he works really hard out of possession and is a good finisher. He presses from the front really well, always looking to search in behind. His work rate and desire to get in behind and get on the ball is exceptional and he's been impressive in the time that we've seen him." http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2015/september/13-september/hammers-sign-serbian-starlet-belic Given he's only here on a 6 month deal it'd seem Belic was a fairly low risk option. I'm not 100% but I think his deal at West Ham may be up at the end of this season so we may well have seen him as someone like Grimshaw that, if he made an impression we may have been able to look at on a permanent deal further down the line. As it is we get to have a look at him, see if he's as good as he's supposed to be on Football Manager, if not there's a fairly easy out after 6 months and he goes back to his parent club. No harm, no foul. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Bremner Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Anyone got any idea whats happening with Luka Belic? noticed he was at the calendar event but still no appearences for the first team and only one for the 20s. Injured? Was speaking to one of the programme sellers last week and he said that he had heard from someone in the club that mcghee doesnt rate him and he was brought in as a last minute offer from west ham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 He was presumably brought in as a option to replace Johnson in the attacking left mid position, but obviously doesn't fit the bill for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Disappointing we didn't have a more suitable replacement lined up after trying to punt Marvin for months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Disappointing we didn't have a more suitable replacement lined up after trying to punt Marvin for months. True. Unless he was hoping Thomas might fill that gap. But even then, we'd need another lefty for cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I still say get rid of him, presuming that's an option available to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I still say get rid of him, presuming that's an option available to usI think his loan was only til January so that day will come soon enough. A modern day Holm Kraska... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Was speaking to one of the programme sellers last week and he said that he had heard from someone in the club that mcghee doesnt rate him and he was brought in as a last minute offer from west ham :lol: Close the thread. We now know the story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Was speaking to one of the programme sellers last week and he said that he had heard from someone in the club that mcghee doesnt rate him and he was brought in as a last minute offer from west ham Elvis ken's the drill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faddythedaddy Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Was speaking to one of the programme sellers last week and he said that he had heard from someone in the club that mcghee doesnt rate him and he was brought in as a last minute offer from west hamELVIS ITK Edit:beaten to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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