Andrew1988 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Anthony stokes has been released by hibs. We must be in with a shout in taking him. I recon the dressing room morale and the leaders that we have in the dressing room should keep him on the straight and narrow Edited January 31, 2018 by Andrew1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 How can a man with two maws have such a lack of discipline? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gullane Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Anthony stokes has been released by hibs. We must be in with a shout in taking him. I recon the dressing room morale and the leaders that we have in the dressing room should keep him on the straight and narrow No thanks. Recuperating Ciftci is enough of a challenge for SR. I think Stokes falls into the polishing turd category. As for Carson, the club's policy is attract players from lower English leagues here for regular first team football. If they perform, they then get the opportunity to progress to a bigger club and salary. Given the way Carson is performing this season, The Championship at least beckons for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 £500k is the number doing the rounds for Carson now...hopefully we have someone sitting by the phone waiting to come in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamH Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 40% of any fee to Hartlepool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 As for Carson, the club's policy is attract players from lower English leagues here for regular first team football. If they perform, they then get the opportunity to progress to a bigger club and salary. Given the way Carson is performing this season, The Championship at least beckons for him. To play devil's advocate,by that argument it would fulfil the club's policy to sell him to Celtic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 £500k is the number doing the rounds for Carson now...hopefully we have someone sitting by the phone waiting to come inI thought Celtic had moved on to other targets when we made it clear that we weren't letting Carson go on the cheap? £500k sounds like a lot for a guy you paid £10k for in the summer, but as you say and the point I made to a Celtic fan at my work, there's no point in being the richest team in the Championship. It's only a good deal if we have a replacement lined up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Celtic are old hands when it comes to taking players from their Scottish counterparts, they'll say one thing to the press, the old 'we've other irons in the fire' type pish, while going back to the said diddy club with an improved deal, knowing that they have unsettled the player in question. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 £500k is the number doing the rounds for Carson now...hopefully we have someone sitting by the phone waiting to come in Closer to £750k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 SSN reporting we've turned down a bid of £375,000. If true hopefully that's the end of it (though I doubt it) and they move on to Bain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldaft Mk1 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Closer to £750k According to an article from Hartlepool local paper Carson transfer fee was £20k. £10k has been paid with £10k still to pay. The sting however is 40% sell on clause. I guess if we were to get £500k+ that would represent good business under normal circumstances but the 40% would explain why we are hanging on for more. It appears that Celtic have offered £375k with a 2pm deadline. £200k to lose our best player means Celtic will need to go and find someone else. Carson is worth much more than that for the next 2 seasons ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 All the above posts make sense but if Celtic can eventually be fended of my concern would then be if Carson doesnt understand the reasoning behind our refusal to sell and we have an important but ultimately disgruntled player on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 A 40% sell on cause plus a proportion of our take to pay off the debt to Les and John is not going to leave us with much to get a replacement with. Any word on the Greek guy being a revelation and getting an extension beyond January? Probably best if we just keep Carson for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 £500k is the number doing the rounds for Carson now...hopefully we have someone sitting by the phone waiting to come in I hope somebody at the club calls Brenda and says thanks for your piss poor offer but Carson is going nowhere, so feck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livivoice Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Anyone know if the O`Hara rumour has petered out? Meantime was speaking to an Accies mate re Hendrie. Describes him as being " very average" but that he may have improved during spell in England. Main strength is in getting forward to support midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew1988 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Officially announced 375k rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Officially announced 375k rejected With a 1400 hours deadline. The offer is being reported in the red tops as "almost doubled". Wow that was generous of Celtic not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dossertillidie Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Big sell on with Carson which means we need to look north of £1m if the % Iv been told is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 I take it we accepted the high sell on % as it was never really in our plans or expectations to sell him. It also allowed us to get him for a nominal fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 It'll be interesting too to see the transfer activity of our rivals as they start to panic. No doubt the likes of Ross County, Dundee, Kilmarnock, St Johnstone and Partick will add last gasp signings. I'm not so sure about Accies as rumour has it that they offloaded Donati to cut costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellowell Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Agree people might think 40% is high but we got a fantastic keeper for 10K upfront and if we sell at any stage the sell on fee will come from the fee we receive so very good bit of business imo ,always wondered why we got such a good keeper so cheaply . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superward Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 According to an article from Hartlepool local paper Carson transfer fee was £20k. £10k has been paid with £10k still to pay. The sting however is 40% sell on clause. I guess if we were to get £500k+ that would represent good business under normal circumstances but the 40% would explain why we are hanging on for more. It appears that Celtic have offered £375k with a 2pm deadline. £200k to lose our best player means Celtic will need to go and find someone else. Carson is worth much more than that for the next 2 seasons ! It's also far too close to get a suitable let replacement in. Had this been the summer I think he'd be going for 500. But with the sell on and the fact we would be weakening the team the fee has to be a lot higher. Even 750 is not worth taking in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Agree people might think 40% is high but we got a fantastic keeper for 10K upfront and if we sell at any stage the sell on fee will come from the fee we receive so very good bit of business imo ,always wondered why we got such a good keeper so cheaply . Absolutely. It's easy just to think that agreeing on the sell on fee is based on how much we plan to then make off a future sale, but it can be just as much - and probably often more - about negotiating a deal at the time that the selling club is prepared to accept. If a 40% sell on clause was an integral part of what Hartlepool wanted for him and the club felt that it was still a worthwhile deal, then fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Apparently Stephen Hendrie has now signed on loan. Just awaiting on the official press release from the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Stephen Hendrie not seen much first team action so no doubt after first game he will need a rest!!! (I'm here all week) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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