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Motherwell v Rangers 31/10/2021

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12 minutes ago, wellwell91 said:

Yip that is the way we are coached. But surely players have got to adapt to what is happening on the pitch. 
Re the 1st goal yip McGinley comes in narrow but everyone is picked up and he’s marking nothing but space having no effect on the game if he even stayed narrow but stepped out 5 yards he makes it do much harder for Tavernier. Sometime players need to react to what is happening on the pitch.
 

Reading the game I think it’s called

McGinley  needs to stay narrow until the ball is crossed, otherwise he leaves a gap that could expose his centre half.

I agree that once the ball is played he needs to try and react and get out there to block the ball.

However, its hard to react when the quality of the delivery is so good. We got away with it for most of the first half as Rangers delivery was poor. The first 2 good balls they put in we lose 2 goals. Thats the folly of giving up the wide areas.

I accept we have  players who are not on the same level as Rangers, which is why matching them up and going 4-3-3 was madness.

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The players are reading the game but I have seen countless times they have been wanting to move into a certain position and GA going nuts and making them move back. Its especially obvious when we make subs and the guys on the park are continually shouting to the manager and asking him what tactics he wants. The confusion is ridiculous and its not the first time I have seen the players frustrated as they just dont know what the hell GA wants.

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36 minutes ago, Well Well said:

The players are reading the game but I have seen countless times they have been wanting to move into a certain position and GA going nuts and making them move back. Its especially obvious when we make subs and the guys on the park are continually shouting to the manager and asking him what tactics he wants. The confusion is ridiculous and its not the first time I have seen the players frustrated as they just dont know what the hell GA wants.

 

 

And that is probably the quickest way to lose a dressing room. The players are not daft, they know deep down that we can't sit back and let St Mirren, Rangers and co do what they want , building attack after attack. If we were winning every week they would probably accept it and suck it up, but once we start getting beat regularly then I would expect the players to revolt.

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I’m still trying to get my head around who exactly is at fault for the second goal yesterday.

You can see McGinley taking a look behind him and seeing the space Aribo is running into so he panics and doesn’t commit to closing down the ball, allowing the cross to come in, so is it his fault?

On the other hand, if McGinley commits then Tavernier passes the ball to Aribo in a very dangerous position, which up until the goal, was where Rangers best chance came from. Neither Slattery or Goss are anywhere near close enough to Aribo. Does that make it their fault or should Sol come across to take Aribo instead?

Should Kelly save it? It’s a good cross and he heads it away from where Kelly is moving but it’s in the middle of the goal.

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51 minutes ago, ZT_1886 said:

I’m still trying to get my head around who exactly is at fault for the second goal yesterday.

You can see McGinley taking a look behind him and seeing the space Aribo is running into so he panics and doesn’t commit to closing down the ball, allowing the cross to come in, so is it his fault?

On the other hand, if McGinley commits then Tavernier passes the ball to Aribo in a very dangerous position, which up until the goal, was where Rangers best chance came from. Neither Slattery or Goss are anywhere near close enough to Aribo. Does that make it their fault or should Sol come across to take Aribo instead?

Should Kelly save it? It’s a good cross and he heads it away from where Kelly is moving but it’s in the middle of the goal.

Big Bevis getting caught under the ball is the biggest problem for that goal 

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Big Bevis getting caught under the ball is the biggest problem for that goal 

I think it was inevitable that Mugabi was going to miss a header when crosses were coming into the box every 5 seconds, maybe S.O.D can get closer to Sakala and put a little pressure on him. No one really came out of the goals looking good.

However I still think the main error was between McGinley and Goss not closing down the ball. If you’re going to allow a player with the quality of Tavernier all the time in the world to hit a cross then he’s eventually going to get it right.

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Anybody else see  a penalty in the first half that GA is claiming we should have had and a chance to go two up .

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Anybody else see  a penalty in the first half that GA is claiming we should have had and a chance to go two up .

I’ve not seen it back and was equally bewildered when I heard him say it.

I’ve seen a few say it was from Watt’s chance, apparently a tackle on Roberts after he played the ball across.

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GA saying it was hand ball by Balogun 

Apologies, was remembering what I read yesterday wrong, Roberts wasn’t tackled, it was his cross hitting Balogun that was supposedly a handball. Yet to find someone other than GA who thought it hit his hand instead of his thigh.

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19 minutes ago, Yodo said:

Anybody else see  a penalty in the first half that GA is claiming we should have had and a chance to go two up .

Nope,  first was when GA mentioned it,  don't even recall fans shouting for it

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Were struggling the now and confidence must be getting really low,there's no way alexander can go away from home for this game and persist with a formation which is ultimately our biggest problem right now.i thought he would have changed it for sunday but never so I've no idea what to expect here,stick with 433 and lose and he's only making a rod for his own back.

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