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8 minutes ago, Yodo said:

You been going around wae yer eyes shut 

So what benefit will the club get then ? Or is it just your usual shite patter with nothing constructive to back it up 

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Ya Bezzer makes a fair point, and its that kind of realism that has kept me from calling for the managers head despite the atrociously poor fayre we have had to endure this season and the very poor run since xmas.

All that said, there are some things to like about this team. They definitely do appear to have a certain mental strength about them. Numerous times this season we have gone behind and come back to snatch points that appeared gone.

There were certainly some games in the first half of the season when we won games by the sheer force of willpower. That level of grit and determination forged a pretty strong bond between the fans the players and the manager early on in the season. Its a shame it was mostly undone in the second half.

The last few weeks though I have seen hints of a change of attitude from Alexander in respect our style of play. We played a lot more thru the midfield last week and the little bits I saw today seemed to be the same. That is encouraging, and with some of the things he has said in interviews this week it it clear he knows fine well what we have all been saying and appears he seems minded to address it.

Thats all I needed to see and hear. If it continues for the final 2 games and there is a clear plan in place to improve the squad for hopefully a tilt at europe, then he will have earned my respect back and the right to go into next season with my full support.

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Generally see a difference in tone and hoping the penny has dropped .

we do the ugly side of the game really well.

just give us something to cheer .

Here’s hoping 

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I'm willing to give it another go next season.

I think the quality of the squad individually is better with a team that really doesn't know how to get the ball down and pass, yet individually they have capabilities.

3 months max if we start badly.

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35 minutes ago, Yorkyred said:

Debate over ?

Not for me I'm afraid. Result is only papering over the cracks. Get him and his eye-bleeding brand of football tae fuck.

Oh and ....... "we're all going on a European Tour".  Let that sink in :lol:

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10 hours ago, Yorkyred said:

Debate over ?

I've never been a fan of binning the manager this season, but I'll happily admit that this is a debate that is never over. And neither it should be.

He's done a great job overall this season. Top six finish, European football secured. Fantastic, and he and the team deserve a lot of credit.

But come the end of the season it's done and dusted. Ground zero, so to speak. It's then on him to make some good moves in the transfer market, identify where we've been lacking and address those issues, and the new season is a fresh slate.

If we're sitting 9th or 10th in October or November and the style of football and results haven't improved, his results this season will count for nothing. 

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The last 2 results have been magic and to be in Europe is great achievement.  However,  we could have had Europe signed and sealed a while back if GA had got team selections, tactics correct.  I am still not convinced about him but you know what, I am hoping he has maybe learned a lot also in past 5 months and possibly and hopefully this could be a turning point.  I am prepared to give him the summer transfer window and the chance to bring in better quality and hopefully clear out players that are simply not good enough.   If come say October no improvement then change is required.  Anyway let's all enjoy the moment and prepare for Europe...COYW

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I had my doubts we would get over the finishing line after recent results since January,  though happy to admit I was wrong

No question GA will be here next season,  and rightly so, without a doubt other results have went in our favour this season though could not care about that today

 

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11 hours ago, Well Well said:

The usual suspects will be sitting fuming tonight that we won.

I would find it hard to believe any true Well fan whether you like Alexander or not would want us to lose last night and miss out on Europe.

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If Alexander isn't here next season it will be because a bigger club have come and taken him from us. I don't see it happening but it's a lot more likely than us getting rid of him.

He's done the job asked of him and more, that's the simple truth of it. There's things that we'd like to see more of, youth getting more of a chance and a more exciting brand of football being the obvious ones and I imagine the board would like to see some players being sold for profit as well.

So the debate (if there was one to be had) is settled for now, but with that said Robinson had just finished third and had done some excellent transfer dealings with young players to make the club some good money and he was still gone by January. McCall had back to back second place finishes but was gone by January-ish.

Right now the manager deserves his plaudits and has a job to rebuild for next year.

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There aren't really many youths missing out. Cornelius has had his breakthrough season and is a real first team player now and Max Johnson has been playing for QOTS.  Sam Campbell on the bench last night is only 18, it's not like we have 19 ,20, 21 year olds kicking their heels, most of our best prospects in that age bracket left for transfer fees.  Dundee United have been played a few teenagers recently and hopefully we will take that approach with the next crop of youths who the club rate very highly.

Since the January restart I had the impression that Alexander was less than 100% committed to the job and might have been looking back down south.  The next few months are vital in terms of bringing in the correct quality of players, doing our best in Europe and being ready to compete for top 6 and Hampden from August rather than the transitional start we had to put up with this season. Hopefully he is focussed on that.

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So let me get this right.We finish top half,no less than fifth,get into Europe and folk are still greeting people really need to get over this anti Alexander when it's clearly working.If it wasn't working then out the door but clearly it is.

Bailed out the cup by the worst red card of the season,finished higher than a few clubs with bigger budgets aswell.Whats even worse on Twitter reading so called fans a few games ago hoping we got beat and Alexander got sacked beyond a shameful.

Saved us last season from horrible mess Robinson left us in and get us in Europe top half finish following season and folk still crying.

God help him if he hasn't spilt the old firm next season then eh?. 

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31 minutes ago, steelboy said:

There aren't really many youths missing out. Cornelius has had his breakthrough season and is a real first team player now and Max Johnson has been playing for QOTS.  Sam Campbell on the bench last night is only 18, it's not like we have 19 ,20, 21 year olds kicking their heels, most of our best prospects in that age bracket left for transfer fees.  Dundee United have been played a few teenagers recently and hopefully we will take that approach with the next crop of youths who the club rate very highly.

Since the January restart I had the impression that Alexander was less than 100% committed to the job and might have been looking back down south.  The next few months are vital in terms of bringing in the correct quality of players, doing our best in Europe and being ready to compete for top 6 and Hampden from August rather than the transitional start we had to put up with this season. Hopefully he is focussed on that.

What basis do you have for saying that?

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The shite talk starts again. Put the season into prospective, we started well then the wheels fell off, injury and illness playing a big part, but the club and players swallowed it and got on with it. The pictures from the dressing room last night certainly didn't show any ill feeling towards the manager, all looked happy. After Saturday the season is over, we rebuild, go to Europe and begin next season. Those who can't be bothered, thanks for your support, no f off. We are Motherwell, we have no divine right to achieve what we achieved, yes the league was constricted but thats due to other teams form. Let the manager rebuild and add to the team, yes his style is something that a lot of people can't stand, but rather get points playing his way, than get beaten playing another. Oh on another note, Big KVV, once again showed that he is the catalyst to play unlike the RAT, who did what he always did, went after the money, then downed tools. Anyway passport's in order bring on Europe!!!!!!.

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27 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:

So let me get this right.We finish top half,no less than fifth,get into Europe and folk are still greeting people really need to get over this anti Alexander when it's clearly working.If it wasn't working then out the door but clearly it is.

Bailed out the cup by the worst red card of the season,finished higher than a few clubs with bigger budgets aswell.Whats even worse on Twitter reading so called fans a few games ago hoping we got beat and Alexander got sacked beyond a shameful.

Saved us last season from horrible mess Robinson left us in and get us in Europe top half finish following season and folk still crying.

God help him if he hasn't spilt the old firm next season then eh?. 

As Alexander himself often says, it's about fine margins. No last second goal from Lamie, no top 6, no Europe. Highlights how close it's been between relative success and relative failure this season.

I think the football's been utterly stinking to watch, but total credit to everyone involved, they got us there in the end, so the manager deserves another go. My expectations for next season would be staying up, a general improvement in the ability levels within a sleeker squad and hopefully a decent run in one of the cups. More than that would be a bonus.

As for anyone saying they want us to get beat, whatever their supposed justification, they were never a fan in the first place.

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27 minutes ago, Winning by Name said:

What basis do you have for saying that?

The bizarre team selections, a style of play and tactics that that made it impossible to believe that training was going well and the lack of subs which gave the impression that we were less than fully committed during matches. The January signings weren't great either and Alexander must have known they were not what we needed.

Whenever we have went off form to that extent in the past it always comes down the manager no longer being focused on the job. This squad aren't world beaters but they should never have been that bad either.

 

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The 2 big questions for me are

1) What have we achieved ?  absolutely brilliant Graham, well done sir

2) how have we achieved it ?  eye bleeding at times Graham, must improve.

Job for this season done, please improve  the 'how' next season. 

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53 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

The 2 big questions for me are

1) What have we achieved ?  absolutely brilliant Graham, well done sir

2) how have we achieved it ?  eye bleeding at times Graham, must improve.

Job for this season done, please improve  the 'how' next season. 

Agree. Never getting sacked with a top 6 finish. But based on what we have seen some concern for next season is understandable and warranted. You would expect the others”bigger” teams will improve so it’s on GA and the players to improve us next season. 

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4 hours ago, C&A not the shop said:

If Alexander isn't here next season it will be because a bigger club have come and taken him from us.

Depends how long Goodwin lasts at Aberdeen I guess. 

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After four months of torture and poor results Alexander finally changed the set up and the performances over those three games have been well worth the watch. Even at Utd where we were so unlucky to come away with nothing. So credit to the Manager, the Team, the Fans and everybody else who contributed to the turn around and the reward of a European adventure.

Listening to his recent interviews it was encouraging to hear Alexander accept that mistakes had been made and that included by him. Hopefully that acceptance will see a more flexible/proactive approach next season. I think that is what most of Alexander's detractors are looking for. Time will tell if that hope is well placed.

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As we are all Well fans the last 2 games have been a pleasant turnaround from a brutal 2022 so far.   Last night was prime example of why we love the Well,  nail-biting from start to finish and a happy ending.  Also 4700 Well fans there which was great .   Just because we won last 2 games I don't think it should be case of saying to those that doubt Alexander (including myself)  "Ha Ha, you got it wrong".  There has been plenty legitimate and valid points for criticising GA which have been discussed lots so I won't bore everyone again.   However I also said I am willing to give him a transfer window as I feel penny has dropped for him on various fronts.   He needs to improve areas of the pitch urgently like Left-Back, Centre Half and another Striker.   At Centre-Half Lamie probably away (though full credit for great attitude since January and 2 HUGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE  goals),  Bevis is fine if played there,  Johansen has went downhill after promising start and Ojala is huge mystery as now looks like a liability, his run last night for goal reminded me of Peter Reid trying to catch Maradona at 1986 World Cup!!!     Think we all need to unite and see how the new squad looks for next season and hopefully a dream of reaching Conference League groups.   Lets return in October and see where we are.    If big improvement we are all happy,  if things not going well then a decision needs to be made.   COYWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

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5 hours ago, grizzlyg said:

I would find it hard to believe any true Well fan whether you like Alexander or not would want us to lose last night and miss out on Europe.

I'm with you grizzly but unfortunately I think your wrong. Some strange people in our support as in life.

Booing from some last night at half time was unbelievable.  Saw a couple up at dingwall on Saturday who will make themselves ill by their shouting pish at our boss.

Never saw them at end of both games funnily enough.

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