Brazilian Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Wouldn't be hard considering 90% of them are yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross_mfc91 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Gannon is blaming the players, but correct me if im wrong, half the team were signed by him and the other half were part of a team who achieved 3rd in the league (which was also achieved through consistency in the team line up) Surely Gannon knows changing the team every week will not be doing any help either. Abysmal today to say the least. Not the first time this year we've been in the lead at half time and then failed to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_nuts Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 dont know what was said at half time but i think Gannon needs to stay in the dug out at half time as it is not the first time this season he has messed up at half time. dont know if it was just me but does Jim O'B not ooke intrested to play for us any more? Took las off when he was the best player on the park at the time. I am not going ot go on about the defence as we did not seem to have one in the second half for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 dont know what was said at half time but i think Gannon needs to stay in the dug out at half time as it is not the first time this season he has messed up at half time. dont know if it was just me but does Jim O'B not ooke intrested to play for us any more? Took las off when he was the best player on the park at the time. I am not going ot go on about the defence as we did not seem to have one in the second half for some reason. Las was never at any stage the best player on the park and he signalled to the bench quite clealy to hook him because he was injured. And Jim O'Brien looked anything but disinterested particularly in the first half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 thats how i saw it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 One for the stattos, I'm going to do some looking into it in the morning, but does anyone know how many goals we have conceeded in the 45-60 period this year? It seems every week we fall out of the traps in the second half and lose a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 One for the stattos, I'm going to do some looking into it in the morning, but does anyone know how many goals we have conceeded in the 45-60 period this year? It seems every week we fall out of the traps in the second half and lose a goal. thats gotta be a good shout our 2nd half performances have ben horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon_da_well Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 That was more gutting than last week. Utter shite. Still believe in Gannon, but he needs to set the team on fire or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 The interview was very honest but very depressing to listen to. He sounded like a guy who was on the verge of chucking it. It did sound like he felt that the team was a bit of a lost cause at the moment. That part is worrying. I don't think he's on the verge of chucking it though. I was at the fans forum last week and Gannon appeared to be under no illusions of the nature of the club and the task at hand. I can't imagine that will have changed over the space of two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Lasley was never anywhere close to being a decent player today. May be the lay off or the fact that he is struggling with injuries. He made very few forward passes to completion and was a poor substitute for a fully fit Forbes. Every time Craigen is in the team we ship goals like no ones business and again it was like watching McGhees defensive system with the man marking and the failure to clear secondary balls. Craigen done ok marking deuchar in the first half but utterly failed to control his man in the second. O'Brien was his usual self today. Lots of nice wee tricks, clever runs, plenty of pace, and absolutely no end product. I was very excited about O'Brien at the start of the season but in truth he is easily taken out the game and is a poor mans Aiden McGeady. I have no recollection of him scoring, setting up or creating a goal this season other than falling down in the box and winning penalties (which he doesnt seem to be able to take either). I am not too worried about his imminent departure. Hopefully these three WILL go in January and Gannon can use the money to continue bringing in the guys who will play his way. This is a rebuilding process, but for some reason many believe he should only be allowed six months to completely rebuild an entire team and make them top three challengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwellhighland Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 We've been playing competitive football from the first week in July, had a mish mash of a preseason due to this and demand our players maintain their previous exceptional standard. The majority of our squad should be preparing for their highers never mind playing competitive SPL football. We're left in that position because we had to offload several star players during the summer. Alot of this free cash was eaten up by the good folks at Setanta going bust. We brought in a young manager, who from the beginning told us that it will take us a couple of seasons to develop our squad into challenging for a top 3 finish. We liked this because he had fresh ideas. We slaughter him because he doesnt play by the old Scottish managers PC rules. We enjoyed the ups and downs of European football in the space of a month leaving the rest of our season some what of a damp squib. We made a solid start and were impressed by League 2 players arriving from England and an Everton reserve who couldnt do it at Huddersfield. We're now shocked that these boys arent the Davie Cooper or James McFadden's of the future. Was there a reason they were at that level and do they need alot of time and development??? We're bamboozled why players like Ross Forbes have gone shite. The same Ross Forbes that was lighting up Dumbarton last season. We're wondering what the hell Gannon sees in Yassin. Some of us look at Paul Quinn's own goal at Cardiff today, and remember how pish he was. We question Gannon leaving out Craigan, lasley and other senior players. We see the rationale in days like today. We wonder where all our moneys gone for players and wages, then sit amongst each other, barely 4,000 of us. We talk about must win games...lose it...and still sit sixth in the table. We are the Well! That my friend is the best post I've ever read on these forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 O'Brien was his usual self today. Lots of nice wee tricks, clever runs, plenty of pace, and absolutely no end product. I was very excited about O'Brien at the start of the season but in truth he is easily taken out the game and is a poor mans Aiden McGeady. I have no recollection of him scoring, setting up or creating a goal this season other than falling down in the box and winning penalties (which he doesnt seem to be able to take either). I am not too worried about his imminent departure. To think this boards sycophants have him at least Championship bound... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DosserJoe Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 16 pages that I canny be arsed reading... Only thing that needs to be said from me is - play players in their correct position please Gannon and give Saunders a rest. He was awful yesterday. Crags and Reynolds could have easily made up our centre half partnership and Hammell at left back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainier Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 One for the stattos, I'm going to do some looking into it in the morning, but does anyone know how many goals we have conceeded in the 45-60 period this year? It seems every week we fall out of the traps in the second half and lose a goal. In the 50-70 minute period we have conceded 13 of our 28 league goals. In all games we have conceded 20 of our 42 goals in this period. 50-55 minutes is our most vulnerable time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Pacino Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I've supported the team for over 25 years so I have seen my fair share of defeats. However I don't think I have ever been as frustrated as I have been this season. To see us play so well in some games and so utter horrendously in others is hard to take, and add to that the number of defeats that we have snatched from the jaws of victory due to "tinkering". I'm seriously considering not going next week as I don't think I can stand watching Hamilton taking the piss the way St Johnstone did, and as Gannon says there's no way we'll keep a clean sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Well, I guess that Gannon has a crucially important transfer window up-and-coming. If he doesn't sort it out during that period, and with no money apparently available that won't be easy, then we are in serious bother. I do believe he will sort it, he simply must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Missed the game yesterday....out of interest how did slane play in his 20 minute spell, or was it too hard to say given the time frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 For the blame Lasley/Craigan brigade - Lasley hadn't started a game since the away match at Flamurtari Vlore. He's hardly going to be in top form pitching him into a team that's already off the boil. Likewise Craigan hadn't played at all since for two months. As for shipping goals with Craigan in the team he has the best record of any of our defenders this season. Goals conceded (league) Craigan - 8 from 7 - 1.14 goals conceded per game Hammell - 19 from 13 - 1.46 goals conceded per game Reynolds - 28 from 17 - 1.64 goals conceded per game Saunders - 26 from 15 - 1.73 goals conceded per game Moutaouakil - 23 from 13 - 1.76 goals conceded per game Hutchinson - 9 from 4 - 2.25 goals conceded per game Funny how the stats show the three most experienced defenders we have have the best record. We've also only played Reynolds, Hammell and Craigan three times in the same team in the league and we've kept two clean sheets in three of those games, losing none of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Missed the game yesterday....out of interest how did slane play in his 20 minute spell, or was it too hard to say given the time frame? He didn't do much but we were woeful by that time, you couldn't expect much from him in those circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeboy Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Think Gannon's decisions are doing us over week after week. Jennings is the only player who gets pass marks over the full 90. Jim O'Brien was good in the first half I thought, he was needlessly substituted, he only seems to substitute players who are playing well. We look a shadow of our former selves these days, there doesn't seem to be any fluency or spirit in our player. Gannon definitely has lost the dressing room. And despite his first accurate cross in about two months, Mouatoukil left me thinking I'd prefer Kevin Christie at right back yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East_Stand_Al Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Las was never at any stage the best player on the park and he signalled to the bench quite clealy to hook him because he was injured. And Jim O'Brien looked anything but disinterested particularly in the first half Which sometimes created more problems than was solved , often he was right on Reymolds' shoulder when if he were less interested he would have been further up in the channel providing the outball. Sorry Jimbo Rock and a Hard place is a bitch to deal with. When Humphrey came on we looked like we might create something, something worth considering is that Yass seems to have an issue with crosses where when he was playing the through ball to Humphrey there was a marked improvement in the quality of ball into the box.............but the guy most likely to get on the end off them was the man he replaced , again Rock and Hard place. (amazin how perspective can change the day after the game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 For the blame Lasley/Craigan brigade - Lasley hadn't started a game since the away match at Flamurtari Vlore. He's hardly going to be in top form pitching him into a team that's already off the boil. Likewise Craigan hadn't played at all since for two months. As for shipping goals with Craigan in the team he has the best record of any of our defenders this season. Goals conceded (league) Craigan - 8 from 7 - 1.14 goals conceded per game Hammell - 19 from 13 - 1.46 goals conceded per game Reynolds - 28 from 17 - 1.64 goals conceded per game Saunders - 26 from 15 - 1.73 goals conceded per game Moutaouakil - 23 from 13 - 1.76 goals conceded per game Hutchinson - 9 from 4 - 2.25 goals conceded per game Funny how the stats show the three most experienced defenders we have have the best record. We've also only played Reynolds, Hammell and Craigan three times in the same team in the league and we've kept two clean sheets in three of those games, losing none of them. In Craigens previous three games, which all came in the space of 2 weeks i think, we shipped 8 goals. 6 against St Mirren in two games, 2 to Accies. Interestingly the Hearts game which came in the middle of these we kept a clean sheet. Guess what? Craigen didnt play that day. As for your stats by my reckoning Craigen has been in a team has shipped 11 league goals (not including the 3 we lost in the cup to St Mirren) in 7 games. As you included the games he was subbed in your stats then so i have. This changes Craigens stat to 1.57 goals conceded per game. If you include the cup then it becomes 1.75 goals per game. Also of the six clean sheets we have kept this season Craigen was involved in only two of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Mouatoukil left me thinking I'd prefer Kevin Christie at right back yesterday. I've been fairly critical this weekend but now I have to say things aren't THAT bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_M_F_C Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I'm of the opinion that it's never been the presence of Craigan that was the problem for conceeding goals when he's been in the side. It's more to the absense of Hammell. Who seems to keep the opposition pinned back due to his attacking nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
something else Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Mouatoukil left me thinking I'd prefer Kevin Christie at right back yesterday. Gannon left me thinking i'd prefer Kevin Christie in the dug out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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