nethertonwellfan Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Karl Ready wanted to do well, unfortunately he was absolutely gash. As was John Davies! How anyone has a positive word to say about him I don't know!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Woods was undoubtedly a good shot-stopper. Apart from anything else, his record of saving six out of ten penalties hit at him in one season (including from Mark Viduka and Juan Sara who rarely missed) cannot be denied. His main problem was that his mistakes were of the mental variety and he was too prone to a rush of blood to the head. I'm by no means saying he was brilliant, but he was a far better goalie for Motherwell than Kaven, Goram, Dubordeau and Brown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Woods was undoubtedly a good shot-stopper. Apart from anything else, his record of saving six out of ten penalties hit at him in one season (including from Mark Viduka and Juan Sara who rarely missed) cannot be denied. His main problem was that his mistakes were of the mental variety and he was too prone to a rush of blood to the head. I'm by no means saying he was brilliant, but he was a far better goalie for Motherwell than Kaven, Goram, Dubordeau and Brown. Aye I agree with that. People just think he is the worst ever motherwell Goalie because of the Gordon Durie incident. Terrible I agree but who would be a goalie? I personally thought Cammy Duncan was murder but that's my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Woods was a bombscare and had many a Well fan covering their eyes whenever the ball went anywhere near him. He might have been a bombscare, but he was our bombscare, the guy may have been playing at a level beyond his ability, but we're Motherwell and that is our lot, if we were a bigger club we'd attract better players or any we do uncover end up being bought by bigger fish, get over yourself with the Woods bashing your 1 trick ponyness is showing through your posts again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Kerse Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Roberto Martinez was an imposter in a Motherwell shirt - done well for himself all the same!! Other plain wrong players I haven't seen so far on the thread were Eddie Forrest and Yann Solloy (infact a whole heap of foreign '6 monthers' including Said Chiba and Sasa Curcic who all done basically fuck all) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 He might have been a bombscare, but he was our bombscare, the guy may have been playing at a level beyond his ability, but we're Motherwell and that is our lot, if we were a bigger club we'd attract better players or any we do uncover end up being bought by bigger fish, get over yourself with the Woods bashing your 1 trick ponyness is showing through your posts again. And I'm not disputing that for one minute. I am fully aware that we are never going to attract or hold on to top quality players. However this thread asked for people's opinions on who the worst player/signing that they had seen in a Motherwell jersey and I simply gave mine and my reasons for giving it. I supported Woods when he played for us, but I just thought he was a terrible goalkeeper over the many years he was here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 The way I saw it was that it was because of how minging he was that he was here for as long. Stevie Woods was at Motherwell for something like nine years and in that time played second fiddle to FIVE different goalkeepers; Howie, Kaven, Goram, Brown & Dubourdeau and only regained his place in the side when one of them either moved on or the manager didn't fancy them. He just kept turning up like a bad penny and each time displayed the same diabolical attributes that saw him axed in the first place. Other clubs realised that he was no use and that's why there was no queue for his signature at any time so that's why he was here as long. Stevie Woods was an absolutely AWFUL goalkeeper and although messers Kaven & Dubourdeau also fit into the same category as him, Woods' persistent awful-ness shades it for me as the worst Motherwell goalkeeper in the last twenty years. And the way I saw it was he wasn't the best of keepers but five tried and failed so he must be at least 6th worst. Most of his memorable mistakes were non-goalkeeping ones, e.g. the Durie howler, the one that came off Leitchy's back as well. Concentration levels I'd say but howlers all the same. BTW in value for money terms he pished all over Goram's record considering the wages they was respectively getting. Doesn't make him a better keeper granted but we got what we paid for, a £90 Grand keeper fae Preston. (at a time when we were paying big money in relative terms) Woodsy had no illusions about himself, that quote came directly from him. None of the above managed to keep him out so at least give him credit from continually winning his place back. If you can't then I just take it you hate the guy and can't see past that. Then again you might just look on the negative side al the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajiboy Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Eddie May must be up there. Two players plus cash for him an he was awful. We tried him in every position and he was still shite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 And the way I saw it was he wasn't the best of keepers but five tried and failed so he must be at least 6th worst. Most of his memorable mistakes were non-goalkeeping ones, e.g. the Durie howler, the one that came off Leitchy's back as well. Concentration levels I'd say but howlers all the same. BTW in value for money terms he pished all over Goram's record considering the wages they was respectively getting. Doesn't make him a better keeper granted but we got what we paid for, a £90 Grand keeper fae Preston. (at a time when we were paying big money in relative terms)Woodsy had no illusions about himself, that quote came directly from him. None of the above managed to keep him out so at least give him credit from continually winning his place back. If you can't then I just take it you hate the guy and can't see past that. Then again you might just look on the negative side al the time "None of the above managed to keep him out so at least give im credit for continually winning his place back" Yes they did. Scott Howie was first choice for the 1995/96 & 1996/97 seasons whilst Woods was at the club and the only time Woods played during that time, with the exception of a cameo sub appearance at right back against Clydebank, was when Howie was out with a broken cheekbone that he sustained against Celtic. As soon as he was fit again, he was back in the side. Then in the summer of 1997, Howie decided that he was too good to play for us and so held out for more money and eventually lef the club so Woods regained his place for the 97/98 season when he basically had no other competition for the jersey. When Harri Kampman came in, he brought his own goalkeeper , Mikko Kaven, who was his preferred choice to Woods until he left until he left the club and then Billy Davies took over. Davies gave both Woods and Kaven games in the side up until January of that season before punting Kaven and bringing in Andy Goram, who was then our first choice goalkeeper for the next two years and Woods' appearances during that time were limited to when Goram was out injured. Then when Goram moved to Man Utd in March 2001, Davies brought in Mark Brown who was his first choice at the start of the 01/02 season and remained so until December of that year when Eric Black dropped him for Woods because he didn't fancy him. He then brought in Francois Dubourdeau who eventually dislodged Woods as No.1 the following season under Terry Butcher until both goalkeepers left the club in the summer of 2003. "If you can't then I take it you just hate the guy and can't see past it" That's not very fair, of course I don't hate the guy, I never knew him. He was obviously an honest player who gave it his best whenever he got the chance and for that he does deserve credit. However, I just didn't rate him as a goalkeeper and I'm sure there are plenty of Motherwell fans who feel exactly the same about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 You care far too much about being proved right, I can't even be bothered reading all that never mind reply to it. Later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 You care far too much about being proved right, I can't even be bothered reading all that never mind reply to it. Later So does that mean I'm right then? Yaaaaaaaaaaaaas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellAyrshire Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Somebody mentioned that Alex Jones the centre half. He was one of the slowest players I've seen and looked as if he had just been dragged in to the club after spending 10 years sleeping rough. Also Rob Maskaant was pish too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 So does that mean I'm right then? Yaaaaaaaaaaaaas If it's that important to ye, fire in. I know the truth though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdt Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Whats right is that MJC thought Stevie Woods was pish, nd you thought he was good. The argument was always going to go nowhere no matter what facts yous both pulled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 John Hendry and Calum Elliot and Alex Miller's [the Rangers leg end's] son also played a couple of games for us. I remember him crossing a ball over the Davie Cooper. . Also Quefio a French Numptie and just about every diddy Harry Kampmann signed. Dubourdeux in goal who let in a goal against Aberdeen fae Hamilton cross. . But the how the feck did he stay so long despite being pish award is a no-brainer step forward STEVIE WOODS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkySuperSub Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Mikko Kaven...maybe I have blanked it out, but I have absolutely no recollection at all about this guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Mikko Kaven...maybe I have blanked it out, but I have absolutely no recollection at all about this guy! I don't know why but I always thought he looked like he should have been a German soldier in a war film with his blonde hair and a rather menacing stare. A stick on for Hitler Youth at least...... He actually had quite a good shut-out record at the start, though that might have partly been down to Kampman's defensive set up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Kaven managed to get 15 caps for Finland - and is still playing football in the Finnish Premier Division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Kaven managed to get 15 caps for Finland - and is still playing football in the Finnish Premier Division ...And was there not a bit of a story/rumour a couple of years back that Arsenal were considering him as a bit of a stop-gap back-up? Or did I dream that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shallow Dave Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 ...And was there not a bit of a story/rumour a couple of years back that Arsenal were considering him as a bit of a stop-gap back-up? Or did I dream that? And didn't I have a dream that the mighty Man United wanted Andy Goram (who features heavily on the 'overrated players' thread) as a stop-gap? Perhaps not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackle Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I cant belive no-ones mentioned him, he musta been that bad a lot of you have blanked him from your memory, Daniel Sengewald, utter gash, didnt last long tho, so every cloud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I cant belive no-ones mentioned him, he musta been that bad a lot of you have blanked him from your memory, Daniel Sengewald, utter gash, didnt last long tho, so every cloud Fine game against Celtic, good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 And didn't I have a dream that the mighty Man United wanted Andy Goram (who features heavily on the 'overrated players' thread) as a stop-gap? Perhaps not. I think anyone who witnessed Goram's save at Parkhead for us would take issue with him being over-rated. Okay he was in the twilight of his career with us but there were still occassions when he showed his class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I think anyone who witnessed Goram's save at Parkhead for us would take issue with him being over-rated. Okay he was in the twilight of his career with us but there were still occassions when he showed his class. Think the problem with Goram was his wages, value for money? No chance, but over-rated? Not IMO. Class act although on the way down when he came here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I think if we'd got Goram sooner, I mean kept him with a club we'd have got better value for our outlay. Jim Gillespie has to be up there, along with Bobby Flavell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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