Haggischomper Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Won't be that much of a bargain given the wages he'll be on. But that's Hearts problem, not ours - and if it hastens their impending bankruptcy then fair enough, he'll have been an EXCELLENT signing for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I can see both sides of the arguement but what I will say is that if we have the exact same squad on 1st September I will be both annoyed and concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 We're not "relying massively" on them. They'll only be called upon from time to time when injuries and suspensions dictate. We have lost our top scorer + best creative player without replacing them, where else are the goals gonna come from? our squad isnt that big! If for instance we replace Lukas, we have - New Guy, Sutton, Murphy main strikers with Smith + McHugh back up. At the moment we have Sutton,Murphy,McHugh + Smith, a lot of pressure on 3 guys of 22,19+19! If we replace JOB, we have - New Guy, Humphrey ,with guys like Lawless back up. At the Moment we have Humphrey! Sutton + Forbes playing wide weaken other areas + put pressure on guys like McHugh,Meechan etc so whatever way we look at it,they are gonna be needed a lot if we dont make new signings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I'm all for given youth a chance but we are in desperate need of a couple of players. I rate Murphy extremely highly but he isn't experienced or strong enough yet to hold the ball up the park in the manner Juke did last season. On top of that, we need a bit of creativity from midfield or out wide. While we won 3-0 last week it was clear to see that we are poor at retaining possession. If the money isn't there then fair enough but why weren't we given this message at the start of the summer. Instead, Brown told us that he had offered contarcts to 2 SPL players. Where has that money gone? And what about the 2 or 3 players that were practically lined up should we progress in Europe? Still nothing. I fully appreciate that funds are tighter than ever but if we narrowly miss out on a lucrative windfall from the group stages, then questions must be asked of how the club is being run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 If the money isn't there then fair enough but why weren't we given this message at the start of the summer. Instead, Brown told us that he had offered contarcts to 2 SPL players. Where has that money gone? And what about the 2 or 3 players that were practically lined up should we progress in Europe? Still nothing. I fully appreciate that funds are tight but if we narrowly miss out on a lucrative windfall from the group stages, then questions must be asked of how the club is being run. Agreed. The squad at present isn't nearly big enough or good enough for the season ahead and based on what we have right now, if that's all we have to go with then it's going to be a very long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 At the moment we have Sutton,Murphy,McHugh + Smith, a lot of pressure on 3 guys of 22,19+19! murphy is still only 20, he turns 21 on the saturday between the OB game at fir park and the celtic game. could be quite a weekend for him. what no one is really talking about is that if the league reconstruction proposals get passed there would be no relegation this season. if that happens then there's no great need to sign anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan09 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 kyles pish he just scored against teams like falkirk and st mirren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeddum07 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 We need to strengthen but because we have waited so long i cant see were the players are coming from! We need a Winger a ball playing midfielder and striker and ifwe can only get two then a striker and a winger! Sutton is not good enough to start for us anymore we should of been replacing players like that with better quality! The squad we have know would only be looking at comfortable bottom six i would say. Have they looked at it and seen Killie and St mirren and thought there down we dont need to invest this year! Would be annoying if that was true there MUST be young players kicking about europe who can come in and do a job for us out wide or up front! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 murphy is still only 20, he turns 21 on the saturday between the OB game at fir park and the celtic game. could be quite a weekend for him. what no one is really talking about is that if the league reconstruction proposals get passed there would be no relegation this season. if that happens then there's no great need to sign anyone. Its got nothing to do with relegation,St Midden,Hamilton + Killie should have that issue sown up,infact Id bet my house on 1 of those 3, however the thing that is worrying me is if we dont sign anyone and finish 9th, instead of the 4th - 6th we would be capable of, our playing budget will be slashed even more next summer!! Its a slippery slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 We have lost our top scorer + best creative player without replacing them yet FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazamfc Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 kyles pish he just scored against teams like falkirk and st mirren And thats the teams that we should beat every time we play them and if he scores against them then that means we have got a chance of beating them and being above them at the end of the season.If we do that we have got a top 6 finish.Simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmo Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Sutton is not good enough to start for us anymore we should of been replacing players like that with better quality! Stop talkin pish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 And thats the teams that we should beat every time we play them and if he scores against them then that means we have got a chance of beating them and being above them at the end of the season.If we do that we have got a top 6 finish.Simples We shouldn't beat any full time team every time we play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazamfc Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 We shouldn't beat any full time team every time we play them. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Why not? Tiredness, lack of form, injuries, poor refereeing, bad tactics, lack of commitment, complacency, bad luck, having our period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Human error, better team on the day, luck, and so on, although if you need that explained to you.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazamfc Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Well if we can at least 4-6 points off they teams a season we will get a top 6 finish and if Kevin Kyle can score against those teams well that would mean that we would have a better chance of winning.Well done to Hearts for picking him up as that is a great signing for them.Thats my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Well if we can at least 4-6 points off they teams a season we will get a top 6 finish and if Kevin Kyle can score against those teams well that would mean that we would have a better chance of winning.Well done to Hearts for picking him up as that is a great signing for them.Thats my opinion We will see. IF he scores more than 15 goals this season, and against top 6 opposition, I might be persuaded otherwise. Turned out to be a bit too injury prone, thick headed, big moothed, and devisive in the dressing room (from what I hear) for my tastes. No where near the pro that John Sutton is. That is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadywellToi Posted August 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Look all in at present things are like this as far as I can see. Brown and Knox are certainly looking at players to strengthen the team, hence the plethora of trialists we've fielded recently. Next thing to consider is affordability (Leeann) or improvement on what we already have (Brown & Knox). No doubt there have been a few players who have discussed at length. Next is strategy, have there been players we are after but missed out due to cash? Are we holding off on a few in the hope that their wage demands will drop closer to the window? The converse of the second is do we miss out on someone because we played hard-ball or have less of a pool to pick from as the deadline looms. I do see a couple of extra players improving the squad ahead of Odense to a degree where its more even than an uphill struggle. A win over the two legs opens up a lucrative UEFA cash pot and maybe a big name or two at FP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazamfc Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Look all in at present things are like this as far as I can see. Brown and Knox are certainly looking at players to strengthen the team, hence the plethora of trialists we've fielded recently. Next thing to consider is affordability (Leeann) or improvement on what we already have (Brown & Knox). No doubt there have been a few players who have discussed at length. Next is strategy, have there been players we are after but missed out due to cash? Are we holding off on a few in the hope that their wage demands will drop closer to the window? The converse of the second is do we miss out on someone because we played hard-ball or have less of a pool to pick from as the deadline looms. I do see a couple of extra players improving the squad ahead of Odense to a degree where its more even than an uphill struggle. A win over the two legs opens up a lucrative UEFA cash pot and maybe a big name or two at FP. Fuck that.Venegoor of Hessilink cost 50 quid to get on the back of a smellic tap so I wouldn't be wanting a BIG name.Maybe just about 5/6 letters will do me fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daver Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Most of the teams we expect to be competing with for a top 6 place have maybe made one signing where you think they might do quite well for them but that is more than made up for by the amount of players they have let go or lost. With the probable excepetions of Celtic who have spent a lot of money and Dundee Utd. who have done next to nothing, everybody will be weakened this season and not just us. Take a look at the BBC's page summarising SPL ins and outs for an indication - it's not completely accurate as they haven't included all the departures. As for Hearts in particular they've lost Kingston, Stewart, Goncalves and Nade and brought in Barr and Kyle. Yes, Kyle will score some goals for them but the last I heard he'd already picked up an injury and could miss the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazles ring piece Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I'm all for given youth a chance but we are in desperate need of a couple of players. I rate Murphy extremely highly but he isn't experienced or strong enough yet to hold the ball up the park in the manner Juke did last season. On top of that, we need a bit of creativity from midfield or out wide. While we won 3-0 last week it was clear to see that we are poor at retaining possession. If the money isn't there then fair enough but why weren't we given this message at the start of the summer. Instead, Brown told us that he had offered contarcts to 2 SPL players. Where has that money gone? And what about the 2 or 3 players that were practically lined up should we progress in Europe? Still nothing. I fully appreciate that funds are tighter than ever but if we narrowly miss out on a lucrative windfall from the group stages, then questions must be asked of how the club is being run. Total agree with your comments, Lobey. And don't bet against C.B. and A.K. being in the same boat either! Personally thought that progressing to this round would pave the way for players to be signed to possibly push for the lucrative group stages, not forgetting our SPL league position and cup runs. Disappointed that nothing has happened to date, but lets see what developes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell Football Club Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Canny be arsed quoting posts, but Tom Hateley was statistically our most creative player last year. Get the O'brien being important nonsense out of your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Don't have any inside info but I wouldn't rule out one or two new players by Sunday ,and just because we haven't heard much about loan signings recently Craig did make mention of one or two enquiries down south and hasn't to my knowledge ruled that option out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazamfc Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Canny be arsed quoting posts, but Tom Hateley was statistically our most creative player last year. Get the O'brien being important nonsense out of your head. You can get it into your head mate.He was a great player for us and I didn't say that he was our most creative but he was creative.It will be hard to replace him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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