Jump to content

Inthebasement

Legends
  • Content Count

    278
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    4

Inthebasement last won the day on January 29 2018

Inthebasement had the most liked content!

Community Reputation

78 John Reilly

About Inthebasement

  • Rank
    Pushing for the First XI
  1. Inthebasement

    2019-20 League Cup

    Couldn't play the ball through their strikers, a really terrible performance. Dreadful from both full backs especially.
  2. Inthebasement

    2019-20 League Cup

    A stream would be hugely appreciated...
  3. Inthebasement

    Livingston vs Motherwell 03/08/2019

    There was last year, lots of fans missed the early stages and no one working there was in the least bothered ala Easter Road.
  4. Inthebasement

    Former Motherwell Fc Players Thread

    I understand that perspective David, and respect your view. But on the one hand you make it sound completely straightforward - the player must look out for himself only and the 'home / development club' relationship means nothing. Then at the same time you draw a neat moral distinction - loyalty is fine if you're a better player like Turnbull or Tierney, but its not for middling propects like Cadden. I think that shows that it really isn't straightforward at all, and we know that even more fashionable young talents like Turnbull can suffer a career ending injury at any time. Football is an emotional game, and a players relationship with their boyhood club often does mean something, at least to the extent that the fans might hope the player would avoid the kind of 'legal swindle' we have been victim to. Development fees already assume the club has not obtained value, it's no more than a minimal compensation for the years of investment and coaching and Motherwell reasonably deserved that, in my opinion. Not saying Cadden is a bad guy, I'm convinced he isn't, but it's disappointing nonetheless.
  5. Inthebasement

    Former Motherwell Fc Players Thread

    I can't pretend to know the detail of the various options and contractual negotiations, and neither do you. So it's an unanswerable question. But in broad terms, he could have instructed his agent that his move should not be structured in a way which avoids his boyhood club receiving a minimum development fee. If a player want to force a move which doesn't work well for the selling club, they can generally do that around the end of their contract. Some young players choose not to go down road out of respect or a sense of loyalty to the development club. There's an obvious example all over the papers - if Teirney was minded to force a move, Celic would most likely have accepted an earlier offer and he'd be an Arsenal player right now. Like it or not, Cadden has opted for a deal he would have known left Well screwed, to the degree we are now considering legal action. There is no point in pretending he was powerless, it's simply not true.
  6. Inthebasement

    Former Motherwell Fc Players Thread

    Personally don't blame the clubs involved in the Cadden swindle at all - it's legal and I don't doubt we'd have done something similar if the opportunity arose. I do however blame Cadden, at least to an extent. The player does has power in these circumstances, and can help ensure compensation for the club if so inclined, though it will sometimes be contrary to their own immediate interests. In short hand, he's taken the Hastie route rather than the Turnbull, and given the boys background and relationship with the club that's a little disappointing. At least it's not Hearts.
  7. Inthebasement

    2019-20 Rebuild

    Setting aside the particular circumstances of the Turnbull affair, it seems increasingly like youth development is a busted business model for small clubs, and I can see why other small clubs are giving up on it. We are producing real talent at the moment, but are losing them before they can contribute to the first team, and without any substantial compensation. Hastie could easily wind up as a Scotland player (and he may well not of course) but either way all Well get is a modest fee and a good quarter season in the first team. With McAlear we look like getting neither. This is not just a Well thing and the club are not at fault, small clubs alomst never command large fees for their best youth players. The compensation regime must surely be overhauled in favour of the seling club, to protect the viabilty of provincial clubs working to develop talent.
  8. Inthebasement

    The 'Magnificent' David Turnbull Discussion Thread

    He's signed to summer 2021, and is a genuine talent and a well fan. Every chance this will work out fine, he'll get back to fitness and form and move to england next summer.
  9. Inthebasement

    The 'Magnificent' David Turnbull Discussion Thread

    Why is everyone assuming we will fold and embarrass the club - we won't.
  10. Inthebasement

    The Small-Medium Rebuild 2018'19

    Brilliant to see Cadden back in a well shirt, the boy's a powerhouse and a leader, i'd personally be happy if we offered the hastie deal to him, he is proven, versatile and can keep improving.
  11. Inthebasement

    2018/19 game 25: St Mirren (A) Wednesday 6th February

    An incredible run! We clearly have a decent generation of young players coming through, each of Campbell, Turnbull and Hastie have arrived in the first team fully formed and looking undroppable. Would be sad not to see Cadden 's energy and power back before he moves on, if that's what's happening. Manager gets huge credit for the last month, blushes all round for contemplating his sacking, including myself.
  12. Inthebasement

    The Small-Medium Rebuild 2018'19

    Would be disappointing to see bigi go, particularly to a rival. Good guy, good player and much better chance of making an impact in new formation. Hibs move also an odd one i think? Just on window generally, turnbull has been the biggest boost. Plus rosco, he came unfit but seems to have been written off because he's, unfit. Could still be a dynamite signing and an additional season looks plausible.
  13. Inthebasement

    2018'19 Game 23:Dundee (A) Saturday 26th January 2019

    How were we set up today?
  14. Inthebasement

    Robinson... How Do We Think He's Doing ?

    Almost all of the upside here is premised on the idea other clubs will come hunting in the summer and he will voluntarily leave without compensation. With respect, that is not a 'look at the facts' analysis. If we finish 10th having exited both cups early, why will he be poached? The realistic upside on waiting til the summer and moving him on then, is a few months' wages.
  15. Inthebasement

    The Small-Medium Rebuild 2018'19

    Take the point that at this stage of his career RMcC may be best as a second striker, but that is the standard approach of our manager and the new signings will fit fine in a 442. If you watch McC's goals on Youtube over the last few years he basically scores the same 4 again and again - 1. pens; 2. belter free kicks; 3. placed shots from around the 18 yard line; 4. poached sitters at the back post. That makes him pretty versatile at our level as he'll find these kind of opportunities from any advanced position.

Twitter @MotherwellFC

×