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  1. 1 hour ago, wellfan said:

    In my opinion, neither has more influence/clout than the other, but we can all have different opinions on this, likely as a direct consequence of our varied backgrounds and experiences.

    However, what I don't think is disputed is that it's clear that both have more influence than they should have in football etc. It’s the stain of Central Scotland’s religious tribalism that gives rise to, feeds, and appeases that influence. It's pervasive, nauseating and embarrassing. 

    Much like my personal views on church and state, football and religion should be at a stage now where it can be and should be separate, but that's almost impossible for football culture in Central Scotland due to its social and political history.

    As a consequence, the collective Catholic and Protestant victim/conspiracy/etc voices will always be heard the loudest in a Scottish football context, and that's unfortunately how it is these days.  

    I agree with this. 

  2. A few interesting posts tonight. I'd be wary of Kallum Higginbotham. He's had quite a few clubs and failed to settle at any of them. A talented player albeit with attitude.

    Like Superward I'm surprised that Ziggy Gordon has ended up at Firhill, I thought he was destined for bigger things.

    Craig Slater to Colchester? Colchester's population is twice/three times that of Kilmarnock and the club itself will be receiving considerably more in TV/media money than almost all, if not all of our Premiership clubs.

    This is the fundamentals of it.

     

    When you look at some of the Engish "towns" they've got massive populations. I know that's not an entirely scientific way of estimating fan bases, but it's a starting point.

     

    Northampton has around 220,000, I think that's similar to Aberdeen. Other places like Luton, Rochdale and Stockport are similar. Then there's our wee towns up here at 30,000 or so.

     

    Add the TV money to the mix and it becomes something else.

  3. As an aside, does anyone else find the quote from Pat Nevin amusing? Not what you would expect from this self styled member of the football intelligentsia.

    Still, I always thought he was a bit of a twat.

    Haha. Noticed that as well. He sounds like a teenager sitting on a cooncil wall with a football in his hands, and they've just stuck a microphone in his face.

  4. The club are trying to head in the right direction but for some reason it's not working.

     

    I think tying in the longer term plans of churning players out, selling players on etc is in complete opposition to what has to be done short term during seasons of struggle ie battling relegation last season and this season. So for two years we've got a situation which is impacting our ability to implement the long term plan.

     

    From being a layman looking in on it, that's what I see. But I could be wrong and it could be all fucked from top to bottom.

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    I think these are all a bit of a contradiction.

     

    I get fairly entertained when I am at the fitba, granted recently it's maybe not been in our favour for 18 months but I do enjoy it and there are still flashes of brillance at games.

    Does your Scottish miserablesness contribute to you not enjoying the games? You claim the media are pish at selling it (which I don't disagree with) but your own assessment of what you take from it isn't exactly uplifting.

    Lack of local pride I understand what you mean with all the religous connotations from yesteryear having an effect on who (if not how) a lot of folk are brought up supporting, probably about 90% of Lanarkshire "supports" either of the old firm. I'd extend that to local pride in our own game as a whole. I really do enjoy Scottish fitba but I do think a lot of folk put it down just cos they can. We may not have the talent or the finance of the larger nations but it is still enjoyable (for me) and can still be excitable. The endless stream of fitba available on the telly these days has certainly diluted our opinion on our own game I think.

     

    There are good points made and we all know as I said we don't have the most talented players, I just feel a lot of folk (not neccessarily you) like to put the boot into Scottish fitba for the sake of it.

    I'm not necessarily one for sticking the boot in. I love Saturdays where I'm out in the pub then off to the football. I think because I've been watching my daughter almost every Saturday since December 2013, I've seen the non-paying armchair fans view of the Scottish game.

     

    I don't know if that makes sense.

     

    Because I'm not there regularly (which I will be the minute I think she's old enough to be taken), I sort of see the games and the SPFL from the median view, that's the only keyhole I see through into the world of SPFL and Motherwell. And it's bleak.

     

    I'm a happy mothafucker by the way.

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  6. I had to give my season ticket up for 2014/15 season because I have a young daughter I need to take care of. She's 2 just now and when she's old enough, I'll be getting the season ticket back.

     

    Having said that, me and some non-Motherwell supporting work colleagues try to get to a few games a season. But the main factors for me not being totally inspired to go to matches are:

     

    1. The actual product is shite.

     

    2. The opposition in general are also shite.

     

    3. There hasn't been an exciting prospect ie talented young player or two on the pitch for a while. There's been some OK ones, but there's been few people to get excited about. Guys like Murphy and McCormack, although not world beaters, were worth paying to see a lot of the time. Few have excited me in the manner the last two seasons.

     

    4. There hasn't been an opposition young prospect to get excited about since maybe Gauld. Entertainments a two way street.

     

    5. Alcohol. Controversial, but I like a beer. Mix beer and football and you've won my heart. Football would be much more attractive to me if drinking was allowed again.

     

    6. Scottish miserableness. As others have said, the media are actually fucking PISH at selling it. I watch big Jason Mohammed on the BBC red button on a Saturday. When those miserable bastarts from the Scottish Final Score show come on they fucking depress me. Their voices. Their faces. It's brutal. A guy was on it on Saturday and he was miserable as fuck, I don't even remember him smiling. It's not a game of poker. But that's about the extent of personality our presenting teams and pundits put into it.

     

    7. Rangers. Like it or not. But not having Rangers makes the whole affair less interesting as a complete product.

     

    8. Most young folk nowadays like the glamour and simplicity of having an English team. I was in Walkabout a few weeks back and it was rammed with folk watching English Premiership and La Liga stuff. Not a shit was given about the teams on the doorstep.

     

    9. National team being shite has led to an interest in the sport in general. As someone else mentioned, fewer folk are into football. The more we fail, the less inspired folk are going to be and we've been failing since 2000. That's enough time for a 20 year old never to have watched us on TV in a major tournament.

     

    10. League structure is PISH.

     

    11. Lack of local pride. England is much vaster in terms of geographical distances between lots of teams. In the central belt were all about an hour away from one another. I don't know but if I was a Newcastle fan I'd be well into getting it up the soft southerners like Southampton, Arsenal, Chelsea etc.

     

    There's probably more but I've depressed myself now,

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