VWBug
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Meat Loaf "Two out of three aint bad", Eh hawd on, that wont work now!
Metalica "Unforgiven"
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from the limited insight your posts give it looks like you are blinkered as you deny your belief about ST then go on to jusitfy it but it would be too easy to take this off at a tangent it is not about season tickets or the benefits, its about raising real security for the club, and strengthening the position within its community
I'd agree with one sentiment, they do not need to sell the £300 stake on the fringe benefits but dont see the need to complain about it when some people may score from them
I don't believe there are positive alternatives, having sat through the meeting and listened to the discussions, anybody that thinks there are should sit through similar and here the pros and cons before knocking it.
hopefully we'll get a surprise at the number of people that think £1000 is achievable,or perhaps £600 per household for his n hers or parent child ( kids can get a full membership as far as I'm aware?)
and as much as the club are keen to maximise the income in the first sale, if households have to budget for only one membership in 2011, hopefully the same households will carry it on for 2nd and 3rd memberships over time
Its worth looking into and exploring your thoughts on what its about, as opposed to skim reading a pamphlet and only seeing benefits you already think you have.
EDIT: apologies Ive just read this and appear preachy, must be more into it that I thought, but I do believe its a good thing but appreciate others might want something direct back from it which is fine, I just don't think this is the scheme for them, maybe plough cash in through strip sponsorship etc
I think you make too many assumptions about me. Apology accepted.
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as a non season ticket holder I'll say your miles oot saying patg fans will not be interested inthe society
Because it's investing in the future of the club in a quite clear manner that in the circumstances seems to be the best option, nothing to do with some benefits in kind
Too many folk think a season ticket is the only way to support the club , I'd argue it's probably the cheap way as opposed to the most beneficial way to the club
I think you might be reading something into in to my posts which isn't there. I don't think for one minute that season ticket holders are any better than they PATG punter.
I do however think that by committing to a season ticket gives the same security to the club as much as the same value to this scheme. When push comes to shove in this scheme there will be nowhere near the numbers of takers as there are people who say they will at the moment. Reality isn't negativity. I choose to have a season ticket even though i know that I will miss about 5 or 6 games a season making it less cost effective than paying at the gate but like it or not season ticket sales are the only guaranteed paid up front income that the club gets therefore has to base its finances around it.
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For some, benefits are critical or may just sway their decision to join or not. As a matter of interest the issue of benefits/incentives was not mentioned by the top table on Monday evening and none of the 30 or so questioners mentioned them. For those interested in them, they may need to be fine tuned. How about some kind of ticket purchase/reservation mechanism for those who live away from Lanarkshire for example?
Given the size of our support we cannot afford to limit the scheme to ST holders only. In any event, as some PATG fans will tell you, never miss a home game.
The issue of retaining members is a very important one and was not raised on Monday. It will have to be addressed though.
I was in no way saying that the scheme should be aimed at season ticket holders only. to the contrary. I just think that people who invest in the club already by buying a season ticket are the more likely ones to further support the club. Why would a regular PATG punter put out £300 to join the scheme rather than buy a season ticket? At the same time why would a current season ticket holder be swayed by the benefits of the membership when they already get most of them with their season ticket. The people that will contribute over and above their current input whatever it is would do so anyway. I see the real potential target here as the local businesses that would get corporate benefits and advertising etc. Not your PATG supporter.
Just my view of it mind.
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Like everything this will have an initial large amount of interest but the key to a scheme like this is keeping the interest and peoples long term commitment. It is just human nature to become infatuated with an idea only for that interest and commitment to it to diminish over time. Peoples finances change as do their priorities. I think the idea of all of this is great and inspiring but I do worry that realistically are there enough people genuinely and I do mean genuinely willing to put there money in to our small club regularly to make this work.
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I know that this is not about the member benefits but why do they list benefits that you already receive as a season ticket holder anyway and the Junior member benefits are just basically the same as the ones for being a member of the Claret and Amber Club.
Has anyone actually ever been able to use a discount voucher in the club shop or kiosks? or even seen any offers?
We have been sold on benefits in the past that never materialise or a duplicated in other offers. Such as Season ticket discounts for being a member of the claret and amber club, but then the Wellevate scheme come along and the ticket is free anyway. Community coaching course discounts that need to be booked online but you cant redeem your discount voucher online for having a season ticket or claret and amber club membership.
They also mentioned that function room hire is a benefit but again this a benefit of being a season ticket holder anyway. I just think that it is great to offer benefits, discounts etc to people if that's what they think motivates them but they do need to be unique benefits.
I understand that not everyone is a Season ticket holder but realistically I don't see a non season ticket holder going for one of the memberships rather than getting a season ticket. Maybe a better way of doing it would be to sell the memberships as an extra on the back of season tickets.
Not meaning to be negative about a very positive scheme, I just dont see the point in trying to sell it as having benefits when they don't need to.
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My son Cairn has been chosen to be a mascot this sunday. We are gonna win this one or it will be ballet lessons from now on. For him not me!
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Maybe its because the 2011/12 season hasn't started yet!
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Well at least this Saturday Darren Randolf can't be investigated for match fixing. Well he did go out with one of them didn't he.
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I ask him the very question a few months ago and he said he would prefer the media to management.
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The 0-0 Tuesday night friendly against Gothenburg March 21, 2000. The worst game of football I have ever witnessed.
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One thing that I haven't yet seen mentioned is the future of the existing Motherwell town centre. I have always believed that the development of Ravenscraig would be the begining of a merger between Motherwell and Wishaw with the Ravenscraig incorporating the new town centre. Such a merger would mean that the area could then apply for City status if Motherwell college could become a University. If the Town centre does move then relocating to Ravenscraig would be an ideal location for the new City club.
I know that there are lots of maybe's and what if's but the area is already one of the most populated areas in the country and far enough away from Glasgow to be a city in its own right.
Just a thought.
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One guy goes off. One guy comes on.
Usual script really.
Aye good
But surely we would expect first team fringe players to be in the reserve team, so who would be on the benches for each side? Youth players maybe.
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How will the subs work for this one?
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Stephen's wife gave birth to his baby daughter yesterday.
Congatulations to you all.
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If you go on population in the surrounding area we should be one of the most supported clubs in the country. It is the only the West of Scotland bigotry factor that hampers our numbers in the stands. Nothing to do with being in a city or not. The other clubs just happen to be further away from the cancer twins.
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It was definately Kerr, he was the year above me a Coltness High.
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Sorry if it has been mentioned elswhere, but was that Stewart Kerr working with our reserve keeper at half time. Is he our new goalkeeping coach or has he been on the staff for a while?
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There has been no bids from any club for Jamie Murphy.@Frazzle.
Yes there was indeed an faxed offer from Accies for Jamie. I can also confirm that Accies tried to buy three other players.
Over and out,
Fanny
You could get a job with the Daily Record with lazy journalism like that.
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Don't see it mentioned anywhere but Hamilton have apparently made a bid for Jamie Murphy. Real radio are reporting it.
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I need to take my top back to the shop this week. After only the second wash the JAXX logo is a total mess. followed all the washing instructions. Anyone else taken theres back and what was the outcome from the shop. As I have my name on the back I cant see them replacing it but i wouldn't mind if the just replaced the logo, if they can that is.
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How much for your mother? Please!
Sorry couldn't resist.
Welcome and I appologise, Motherwell fans are total wind up merchants
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