punk_in_drublic Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Tonight was one of those matches where we lost a couple of bad goals. What's been obvious since the start of last season has been the goalkeeping situation. We've sort of cycled through keepers in that time. Lee Hollis - not sure where he is now, given he was playing for ther 2nd best team in the country 12 months ago, is a massive halt in his career. I can't think of a 28 year old keeper who has had such a stint to their career. Gunnar Nielsen - when we first signed him I thought it was a great bit of business. Physical attributes, big club past, international, a lot of things you'd look for on paper. Bit it didn't materialise. Dan Twardzik - he's had his detractors, currently I'm 50/50 on his ability. He's ok but not spectacular. Not quite an SPFL first teamer, more of a back up. George Long - not seen the guy play top much and as such I leave it for others to provide views. We've had some solid keepers for a while and the contrast is pretty stark. Part of me still thinks we should have went for Jamie MacDonal back in the summer, but it wasn't to be. What is apparent is that having even an average SPFL first team keeper can grab you around an extra handful of points (6 - 9?). For me, the whole issue seems to have coincided with Marshall having overall say on the goalkeepers. I hope Baraclough fixes that arrangement. I'd be interested to hear if it's just me who thinks this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 We've had some solid keepers for a while and the contrast is pretty stark. That there, is the most pertinent point. We were spoiled with Ruddy and Randy and with expectations so high, whoever came in was going to struggle in comparison to those two who were quite rightly fan favourites. We were linked with Craig Samson when Randy left and I think if we had managed to get him he would still be our no 1 now. He's nothing spectacular but more than dependable, which is more than you can say about anyone who's played in goals for us since. If we had dominant centre halfs, keepers like Hollis and Dan may have stood a chance but their lack of dominance in the box meant they were always going to get the blame for our defensive woes before the likes of McManus et al. I think Long is a decent keeper, but his spectacular save to howler ratio is every bit as bad as Dan's which is worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_in_drublic Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 The Craig Samson signing has also jumped into my mind. It seemed like he was out first choice back yonder when we tried to sign him and then he changed his mind for Killie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 If I remember correctly, I think it was down to being closer to family, which is understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siebsbarmyarmy Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 The keepers seem to regress under the stewardship of Marshall.... I think a lot of blame may just lie right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I think the craig Samson thing was more down to him having previously been there as a player and also supporting the team ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I think the craig Samson thing was more down to him having previously been there as a player and also supporting the team ! Sammy is a big Rangers fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Sammy is a big Rangers fan sorry whispy but you might be right , it was a killie youth team player that mentioned it to me at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I'm a huge detractor of Wee Dan The Midget Goalie, and was deligheted that we had signed a goalkeeper with a bit of height and apparent pedigree but Long isn't filling me with confidence either....just seen the goals from last night....what the fuck was he playing at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacol Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 The Craig Samson signing has also jumped into my mind. It seemed like he was out first choice back yonder when we tried to sign him and then he changed his mind for Killie. Only a rumour at time but I was told he decided to go to Killie as he was told he wasn't going to be a definite first choice and that Hollis would be given the chance also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCusker Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 The keepers seem to regress under the stewardship of Marshall.... I think a lot of blame may just lie right there. totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Made Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 The keepers seem to regress under the stewardship of Marshall.... I think a lot of blame may just lie right there. Seem to remember a lot of Hibs keepers having similar issues under Marsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Superwell Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 We were not meant to be looking at that Marian Kello of St Mirren at one point as well? He seems to be on the bench regularly these days for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 We were not meant to be looking at that Marian Kello of St Mirren at one point as well? He seems to be on the bench regularly these days for them. Thomas Cerny sitting on the bench at Hibs as well, but Oxley is only on loan so he might be 1st choice next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 We've got our own 'TREBLE' 3 PISH GOALIES!!! It's absolutely and totally the fault of Gordon Marshall who was a pish keeper himself. I'll never forget his abysmal performance in the 2005 League Cup Final, i know for a fact he was voted Celtic's WORST EVER KEEPER. We've gave him a free role to recruit our keepers according to Stuart McCall before he left. . We've got shot of Nielson 2 more to go... <_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 On your recommendation McCall might take Marshall to Ibrox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 i know for a fact he was voted Celtic's WORST EVER KEEPER. You got any evidence of this? I find it hard to believe he was worse than Iain Andrews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEWELL Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I work beside Celtic fans who've confirmed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I work beside Celtic fans who've confirmed it. Iv certainly seen far worse celtic goalies than Marshall. But one things for sure he doesn't appear to have the Midas touch when it comes to recommending goalies. That said I'm not convinced he would have any involvement in the signing of George long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I work beside Celtic fans who've confirmed it. And there's folk on here who'd vote Motherwell's as Stevie Woods. What's he doing now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StipeIsGod Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 We've got our own 'TREBLE' 3 PISH GOALIES!!! It's absolutely and totally the fault of Gordon Marshall who was a pish keeper himself. I'll never forget his abysmal performance in the 2005 League Cup Final, i know for a fact he was voted Celtic's WORST EVER KEEPER. We've gave him a free role to recruit our keepers according to Stuart McCall before he left. . We've got shot of Nielson 2 more to go... <_> YOU bore MY tits CLEAN off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 We've got our own 'TREBLE' 3 PISH GOALIES!!! It's absolutely and totally the fault of Gordon Marshall who was a pish keeper himself. I'll never forget his abysmal performance in the 2005 League Cup Final, i know for a fact he was voted Celtic's WORST EVER KEEPER. We've gave him a free role to recruit our keepers according to Stuart McCall before he left. . We've got shot of Nielson 2 more to go... <_> Does anyone really believe all this stuff about Marshall recruiting the goalkeepers. Goalkeeper is arguably the most important position on the field. No manager worth his salt is going to put out a team where the most important player on the pitch wasn't ultimately his choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punk_in_drublic Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I believed it under the McCall stewardship. But I doubt it will happen now. If I were the manager id certainly seek opinion from the goalkeeping coach. But would I fuck give him free reign to bring them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCusker Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 we should never have been in a situation where we signed dundee's third choice keeper as our first choice, that should have had alarm bells ringing, especially as mcdonald was released by hearts!!!!!!!. IB has been forced to sign another goalie and long was the best he could find in the january window and he looks on paper to have pedigree. he imo is better than dan so must continue in goal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamsie119 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Haha does anyone know where buzz is, think his girly screams could sort out the defence lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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