something else Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 What's the current rules for seatered stadia in the SPL,is it still 10'000 seats or is it down the 6'000? I'm sure Falkirks only holds about 6,000 or it did when it opened! Of course we only need a stadium big enough to hold around 7 or 8,000 but i also think we have to believe that at some time in the future we might need a bigger capacity. I would build an 8,000 capacity with enough room to build onto it in the future if needed. What we certainly don't want though is the two sided stadium with nothing behind each goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper_no1 Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I'm sure Falkirks only holds about 6,000 or it did when it opened! Of course we only need a stadium big enough to hold around 7 or 8,000 but i also think we have to believe that at some time in the future we might need a bigger capacity. I would build an 8,000 capacity with enough room to build onto it in the future if needed. What we certainly don't want though is the two sided stadium with nothing behind each goal. Id say your spot on there. I'm not overly optimistic that crowds at Motherwell will swell too grately however if ravenscraig does develop to it's promise then there is always going to be that possibility of a bigger fanbase and therefore not allowing room for future expansion would be criminal. Deffinately wouldnt like to see a stadium with an empty side,been in a few of those and it completely destroys any atmosphere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadywellToi Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Al B highlighted this one on another stadium thread, it's by far my favourite. It would work as it would be a landmark building therefore attracting people to it and if combined with a quality wedding venue/conference centre/hotel then you'd get a nice supplementary income. Bear in mind Motherwell/Wishaw has the Newhouse and Moorings and Bently as the only recognised hotels (ignoring B&B's). I reckon this would have the same draw among the public as something like the Falkirk wheel, we wouldn't need the underground parking so could save a considerable amount on that structural engineering and landscaping. Seems to be coming in at the £13m mark (however that's Qatari prices with cheap Indian labour). Architectural Drawings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I think we should go for something along the lines of Aalesunds' stadium. Not sure how much it cost them though. http://www.stadiumguide.com/colorline.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Yeah I can't see anything remotely like that being built LadywellTOI anywhere in the UK never mind our stadium. I think something that looks something similar to the Ravenscraig Football area gets a thumbs up from me. Plenty of shiny metal (non rusting of course ( Mr Barr to note)) loads of parking and I would still say we need a 10k seater. I have a funny feeling that there will be nothing re a new stadium and it will be about this trust setup at the club with JB stepping down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_411 Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Maribor's stadium is pretty cool, new built and holds just over 10,000 i think. WOn loads of architectural awards and is used for other events (music, performances etc) something along those lines would be nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 I have a funny feeling that there will be nothing re a new stadium and it will be about this trust setup at the club with JB stepping down. Yip. It's the trust that's worrying me. Fans running a football club, recipe for disaster if this board is anything to go by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Did they mean the supporter's trust? I presumed they meant a board of trustees, rather than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Did they mean the supporter's trust? I presumed they meant a board of trustees, rather than that. I thought that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 are there any other clubs in the uk with this kind of trust set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Al B highlighted this one on another stadium thread, it's by far my favourite. It would work as it would be a landmark building therefore attracting people to it and if combined with a quality wedding venue/conference centre/hotel then you'd get a nice supplementary income. Bear in mind Motherwell/Wishaw has the Newhouse and Moorings and Bently as the only recognised hotels (ignoring B&B's). I reckon this would have the same draw among the public as something like the Falkirk wheel, we wouldn't need the underground parking so could save a considerable amount on that structural engineering and landscaping. Seems to be coming in at the £13m mark (however that's Qatari prices with cheap Indian labour). Architectural Drawings Which is still currently a hole in the ground, or hardly even a blow struck If we ever move then they'll recycle the seats from the east,cooper and south stands with a probable design based loosely on the Cooper stand, although probably not as high or cut like the Accies stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxywell Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 i'd go for a steep sided stadium joined at the corners, capacity about 12,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadywellToi Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Which is still currently a hole in the ground, or hardly even a blow struck So? We can but dream or aspire to something more than we have or can expect can't we? Don't see why the current status of this development has any bearing. I wouldn't advocate moving for a few years yet, there is no benefit to doing so just now, best to wait till the real estate values creep up and a move is forced upon us rather than taking on extra debt and all the extra hassle that goes with it. NLC and the Ravenscraig development mob will makes things happen if they really want us to move there to raise the profile of the new town. However, as has been discussed this announcement is more about JB taking more of a back seat in preparation of a re-alignment of how the club is owned and run. Stadium talk is far off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Bob Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Any move will have to wait until they repeal the "all seating" rule, so we can have safe standing areas built from scratch, perhaps even a whole stand. That would also help bring folk back to football, as it gives a better atmosphere, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 So? We can but dream or aspire to something more than we have or can expect can't we? It might as well be made of solid fucking gold, there's a dream for you, that stadium has hardly a chance of being built where it's been proposed never mind Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Was personally very impressed with OB's stadium and Parc Y Scarlets. One of them would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 We've been round this loads of times and there loads of pipe dreams (some just a bit too wacky mind ya) Scottish Football is in survival mode - talk is of 'continued existence' - not elaborate expansion. There are so many things that need to positively change in Scottish Football before we can even have a chance of looking to develop beyond continuing on a shoestring budget and making (or just about making) ends meet. I'm happy that we appear to have brought someone in who can help develop the club - looks like he's a big well fan so that's great. However we see in other news stories of the week how the 'new blood in the boardroom story' can hit the skidders. We all need to see how this develops. Looks promising tho' As for a stadium - like another poster mentioned earlier, I believe we blew it a couple of seasons back - there must have been a deal on the table when the college move was on the go - surely? it may take a while for that to come round again. The very most we could ever imagine with the sale of the existing ground and some generous development funding is Parc y Scarlets. That seriously is as far as we could ever dream of going - and that's way on the high end of optimistic. The expectation must be a New St Mirren Park bolted on to the Regional Sports Facility I'm afraid and if that's not handled well - we could be looking at another chunk off the crowds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Was personally very impressed with OB's stadium and Parc Y Scarlets. One of them would be ideal. Great minds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 The expectation must be a New St Mirren Park bolted on to the Regional Sports Facility I'm afraid and if that's not handled well - we could be looking at another chunk off the crowds. That's the worry, far from attracting new fans by moving to a shiny new ground in a whole new town we could actually disenfranchise many current fans by having to travel further from the town centre to a shitey breeze block identikit shell. Long way off of course, I too believe we missed the boat when the college deal was going through but am happy wi' that. Long live 'Up By' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkySuperSub Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Al B highlighted this one on another stadium thread, it's by far my favourite. It would work as it would be a landmark building therefore attracting people to it and if combined with a quality wedding venue/conference centre/hotel then you'd get a nice supplementary income. Bear in mind Motherwell/Wishaw has the Newhouse and Moorings and Bently as the only recognised hotels (ignoring B&B's). I reckon this would have the same draw among the public as something like the Falkirk wheel, we wouldn't need the underground parking so could save a considerable amount on that structural engineering and landscaping. Seems to be coming in at the £13m mark (however that's Qatari prices with cheap Indian labour). Architectural Drawings That stadium design to me is just fucking ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 That stadium design to me is just fucking ridiculous. How much more than some of the other suggestions we've had though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welldel Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Great minds Yes , It was a magic stadium and would look all the better in Claret and Amber with goal posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 a stadium design with a pitch that appears to be in a hole dug 30 feet into the ground is definitely the daftest idea so far! good luck digging snow out of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 This is definitely my favourite picture of 'The Wall'. What the fuck?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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