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I'm not so sure it's Jake Hastie getting to the end of his contract and accepting a life changing offer from a bigger Club that continues to upset a minority. Or his outing as a fan of that Club or even celebrating joining them. I suspect it's the fact that the Club in question is Rangers that is the real issue. Otherwise why were these same folk not having a go at Darren Randolph, Michael Higdon, John Sutton, Mark Gillespie, (Chris Long?) and, going further back, Paul Lambert and Rab McKinnon? When they walked out we received £350/400k less than we got for Hastie. In other words, nothing. There are others. And , if youth is a factor, how come McKinstry is hailed as a shining example of how good our youth development is when he elects to move to a bigger Club for £225k rather than staying with us to develop his footballing career? Also, how come we celebrate our goalkeeper joining "his club"? I suspect the answer is that not one of the players I listed left us to join either Rangers or Celtic. Paul Slane anyone? Footballers of all ages have decisions to make throughout their career. Some will get it right, some less so. Credit to Hastie for having the ambition and belief to give Rangers a go at such a young age. Even more credit for having the desire to come back to us on Loan when he had other, less demanding options north and south of the border. And credit to our Management team for bringing him back despite the objections of a few fans and the supposed upset caused by the manner of his original departure. Robinson clearly thinks Hastie can help us and I for one look forward to seeing him prove the doubters wrong.

For me he’s a Motherwell player now and who knows may sign permanently at some stage if things go well. The past is the past and I can pretty much guarantee we will get better performances out of him if we support rather than abuse him. When we get back as supporters I will be cheering him on exactly the same as any other player.

So by that token did David Turnbull show a lack of ambition by choosing Celtic over Norwich? After all Celtic play in the same League as Motherwell and Turnbull was not guaranteed a start every week. A stepping stone to greater things was mentioned as a strong reason for choosing Celtic. More likelihood of development and a chance to learn from better players. I have a feeling he opted for Celtic to be closer to home more than anything else. But that’s only a thought and not based on anything definite. I’m not saying Hastie has shown anything like the consistency or talent of Turnbull, but by moving to Rangers he immediately increased his chances of winning silverware, increased his chances of playing against top European sides, increased his chances of a call up to the full Scotland side, got to work with a coaching team possessing a wealth of International and European experience , got to train and play with top International players, and got a hefty wage rise as well. Just like the situation Turnbull would have benefited from. It has not yet worked out as well as Jake had hoped but all is not lost. He may well be a better player than when he left us, both in a football sense and mentally. Time will tell. If he does well for us, who is to say he will not get another look in at Ibrox? Whatever, I’m sure that given his time over again, he would make the same decision. Commitment wise he was with us for 11 years, despite approaches from other Clubs during that time. Just like Turnbull and Jamie Semple. Unlike a good few other youngsters who opted to leave ....Leeds and Rangers being two beneficiaries. And Hastie chose to return to us despite interest from elsewhere. As for there being the same anger if he had gone to a Hearts or Aberdeen, I don’t recall there being such bitterness or talk of lack of ambition when Curtis Main departed for Aberdeen. And it could be argued Main contributed more in his time with us than Hastie did. And that he owed us for rescuing his career. Players get to the end of their Contracts and sometimes better offers come along from elsewhere. Players have decisions to make and we have to respect that the decision is theirs’ to make. Injury and the denial of the opportunity of progression and security might only be one game away. And if Rangers want to Loan us Greg Docherty and Jamie Murphy as well.......

Bold of you to assume there's not people on here who hate Rangers more than they like their families.

Turnbull is actually a good example. His "big move" to Celtic was derailed due to a knee issue. Now, what would have happened if that knee issue was more serious? In fact, and I really hope this isn't the case, imagine Turnbull returns this season only to break down for whatever reason, and he never hits the heights expected of him? Do you think Celtic will still want him? Not a chance. That life-changing money is gone in a flash. Let's take it even further. His knee continues giving him grief and he never gets back into a groove for us, and eventually drops out of our team. When the time comes and he's quietly released, do you think the fans who bemoan a player leaving too early will give a toss? Of course not. We're more concerned with the next Turnbull, or the new striker we've signed. Turnbull will just be another ex-player who is a "what if?" discussed in pre-match pub chit chat. Players "owe" the club and the fans nothing. It's only ever the good players that are called on for loyalty and "giving back," isn't it? If he was shit we wouldn't be bothered. Hastie was right to take the stupid deal Rangers offered him. He's most likely never going to be better than he was during that purple patch he had for us, so he's right to cash in on it. He could easily go out against Ross County for us and go down with a career-altering injury. You take the money when it's available. Strike while the iron is hot, so to speak.

I know how successful our youth system is but what could you possibly invest that 200k that relates to the youth academy? Genuine question btw. From my view our academy is working perfectly fine but for this season the youth academy is basically a right off as seasons won’t start back until 2021 supposedly. That money makes more purpose for investing into the first team this year and pushing on even further than last season and by doing so go further in Europe and then you could think about other things like youth etc.

The club has guaranteed 19 home league games on season tickets. So whether we take the hit now or later, we will be losing money on every home game with no crowd.

Its possible this will be moved to the Sun anyway because of Europe.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/callum-lang-eye-motherwell-permanent-22307438 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd1LelpFPjc&t=71s I know its just youtube highlights (anyone can be made to look amazing), but he looks awesome this would be exciting if we could get him permanent

If Jake Hastie plays well and scores goals this season all will be forgotten. If he doesnt then the boo's will amplify and build. He really needs to hit the ground running. I wish him well.....

The other .01 would be lying.

They did. The 5th King’s Own Scottish Borderers used the same C&A yolk template as Bradford and us. They paid homage to the shirt worn by them, although they used a ‘v’ yolk rather than the more traditional curved yolk used back in the day. Queen’s were formed from a merger of three teams (Dumfries FC (formed 1897), a works side, Arrol-Johnston FC and 5th King’s Own Scottish Borderers).