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Miller doesn't need to be starting for Scotland, but he was worth a punt as a sub in the Slovenia game for example.

The carrot was telling them how great they all are and it would be nice if they didn't do it again.

SOD also brings the experience we have been sorely missing in a few recent games when we needed a leader on the pitch that can help refocus the younger players and help them stick to the plan.

We were fined 20,000 Euros for fans discharging pyro in Germany. Even if we were able to identify them, I can't see the Scottish police taking any action.

Carrot and stick. Ask them not to do it. Negative consequences when they do. So far, the club has only implemented the first part.

I'm always in favour of engaging fans as often as possible, but "get their points across and find solutions" feels a bit like avoiding the issue. Unless and until the rules are changed, the solution for pitch invasions is "don't invade the pitch and the solution for pyro is "don't use pyro inside the ground.

100% agree. Apparently Robertson said '...as a defender, it is almost instinctive not to simply allow a striker to shoot, with “every fibre” telling you to do something to stop him' When you're a professional player I'd expect your instinct not to get sent off for a DOGSO should be well developed.

For an allegedly experienced international defender to make that challenge is inexcusable. I know Robertson was doing his bit as captain trying to explain that it's a defender's mindset to never let anyone past them, but that just made it worse for me. As I've said a few times, I remember Fergie always saying that he drilled his defenders to never commit fouls like that. His approach was that the striker still had to find the target and beat the keeper - and if they did score, he'd want 11 players on the pitch to respond. That's the mindset you should have as a top defender, especially that early in the game. Hope Miller gets a run out soon or he might start looking for an Irish granny.

Aye right. NOW you bring Welsh on.

Nothing to do with grizzly or his jokes, but just in general I think it's a good idea to take regular breaks from posting on any forum - and the international break is as good a time as any. Then come back all guns blazing after our next 0 - 0 draw.

I get the feeling that the Board and/or WS don't want to play the bad cop by dishing out some punishments. That's fair enough after the initial incidents, pointing out the penalities and asking to not to repeat. Now there has been a repeat, however, they need to take appropriate action.

The Well Society doesn't run the club. The Board fulfills those duties.

Unfortunately, that's exactly why we couldn't afford him. Happy to see his continued success, and yet another example we can't point to in our recruitment process.

A season late for Welsh to be starting for Scotland, but still funny that Celtic have no competent central defenders in their squad.

I get that the rules feel petty at times, but you only need to look at Man City to see what happens when you don't have rules - or you do have rules, and the big teams try to circumvent them. It's much easier to have a single set of regulations that everyone has to follow than spend time and money evaluating every one of the hundreds of clubs every week.