StipeIsGod 126 Report post Posted October 24, 2015 Agreed, but if not for Butcher, would a maverick like McFadden ever have seen game time? I would say that the salient point of Butcher being the right man at the right time is entirely correct. He gave us a rallying point, and I'll always respect him for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelboy 1,307 Report post Posted October 24, 2015 The football under Butcher was miles better than anything we've seen at Fir Park over the last two years. We were a good team the two seasons we finished top six with a a great core, Corrigan, Hammell, Craigan, O'Donnell, Leitch, Foran, McBride (before he got injured), McDonald, Clarkson. We underperformed the next season but still score a lot of goals and think about the 4-4 game with Celtic compared to the torture we endured last Saturday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weeyin 4,196 Report post Posted October 24, 2015 Being better than the last 2 seasons isn't exactly setting the bar high. Fans expectations were much lower after coming out of administration, but on pure footballing terms, there was a lot of mince on show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brazilian 746 Report post Posted October 24, 2015 was more enjoyable to watch that 'mince' than most of the seasons since Butcher than ran out of ideas and suitable players, probably stayed on one season too long, much like McCall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weeyin 4,196 Report post Posted October 24, 2015 was more enjoyable to watch that 'mince' than most of the seasons since I still think that was due to the expectation of the fans though. If Butcher had produced the same performances after, say, McGhee left the club, he'd have been out after season 1. The whole "we're all in it together" mentality, which was galvanized by Butcher's presence, meant fans were a lot more forgiving (which was a good thing). Suddenly, it wasn't just about playing nice football or winning games - it became about survival as a club and the identity of a town. And none of this is knocking Butcher. My position has always been he was the right man at the right time and I'm glad he was there when he was. I just think he gets an easier ride because of the circumstances. McGhee was slated for the way he left the club, but he was much more up front and honest than Butcher was in that regard. Overall, though, just one more reason to make the most of enjoying our good seasons, because most years are going to be mediocre at best. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twistandshout1983 48 Report post Posted October 24, 2015 I quite enjoyed Butcher's time at the club thinking back, will always remember him for the run to the CIS final (with the exception of the final) and for Skippy Sunday being one of my best days as a Well fan. The likes of the 4-4 against Celtic and the 5-4 loss to Dundee Utd were much more entertaining than some of the recent crap we have watched and he had a decent cup record. Although the 02-03 season wasnt the best beating both old firm and thumping 6 past Hearts were very enjoyable too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sbcmfc 354 Report post Posted October 24, 2015 Although the 02-03 season wasnt the best beating both old firm and thumping 6 past Hearts were very enjoyable too We were completely bi-polar that season! If I recall correctly the 6-1 humping of livi on the last day of the season was our 1st win of the season against a team in the bottom 6, but we had beaten everyone in the top 6. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo 120 Report post Posted October 24, 2015 We were completely bi-polar that season! If I recall correctly the 6-1 humping of livi on the last day of the season was our 1st win of the season against a team in the bottom 6, but we had beaten everyone in the top 6. Aye. I always remember saying that we beat every top six team, and none in bottom six. The Motherwell way, I suppose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frazzie 708 Report post Posted October 25, 2015 Aye. I always remember saying that we beat every top six team, and none in bottom six. The Motherwell way, I suppose. ...until that Livingston game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites