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Although some will disagree I am actually a fair man. Hell, I even stood up for Robinson after the Livingston match. I've actually been slightly heartened recently that Turnbull is now in the team and that guys like Mbulu, Maguire, Livingston and Scott are now, finally, making the odd appearance. Of course they need more appearances, for instance I think now is the time to put Scott ahead of Bowman on the 'off the bench' roster, as Bowman had another ineffective introduction today, and they should have played more before now. Fingers crossed on that. Also our form over say, the last 8 matches or so, is by no means the worst it's been under Robinson. We were actually MUCH worse for long spells last season but of course we were in the cup so all was forgiven by most of our support. Remember last seasons 2 wins in 15 matches? Well, perhaps, but it didn't seem to register with too many. Certainly makes our 4 wins in 16 matches this term look a bit better. And for me that is really the interesting thing here. I've been a long standing critic of Robinson, even when we were in relatively good form because I had the foresight to see that that style of football was not going to be successful long term. However it seems to me that the antagonism towards Robinson has risen sharply this season when to all extents and purposes our form is no worse than last season and, in fact, has actually improved slightly. What's the difference? Well, it has to be the lack of a cup run. Is that actually a fairer way to judge the manager than the criteria that I've pretty consistently stuck to? Anyway, now my foresight is telling me we cannot go on with a revolving door of low quality lower league/non league players coming in and out of the club every couple of seasons and expect anything more than...well...what we have now. Sure there will be some good ones. Louie Moult is one of my favourite ever players and I'm in my 4th decade of supporting this team. But overall the standard of player has to improve if we are going to improve as a club and since it's difficult to bring them to the club it stands to reason that we have to produce them. So Robinson can win my support any time he likes by having a forward looking vision centered around youth and a modern style of football, I have absolutely nothing personal against him, it's just a disagreement in strategy. And given that we've given the route one/percentage football a pretty decent whack and not really got anywhere with it, I think things are ripe for change. I actually hope Robinson can transform himself and his philosophy, because otherwise it's bad for everyone, especially supporters like me that actually go to every match. Whether I'm confident that he will is a different story.

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Nabbed a point against Celtic, sitting 9th and 6 points clear of the bottom two. He's doing his job, regardless of who likes it or not.

See these post match interviews with robbo and the players believing we played well think there’s a reality check needed

Don't get me wrong Iain, the team should go all out to win these games and they have to believe but its just that I have low expectations this week and next. Just now I have little confidence that the team won't make a crucial error against better sides whilst the oppostion makes none. There's little in these games but just enough to deny us a point, as we've seen often this campaign so far.

I don't buy into this mate,we've just put in yet another poor performance and lost again but we shouldn't be too bothered as teams below us dropped points too,let's just hope dundee don't get anything tomorrow.we need to get the finger out and start getting some consistency going as it wouldn't take a lot for the teams below us to suddenly be right on our tails.

I've been saying that all season. He isn't even championship standard total pish.

Club was saying earlier there isn’t.

We'll see what happens with Turnbull I guess. Hope we don't lose him. As for the future with youth, I do agree we need to see them earlier in the first team than we generally do to increase the chances of of a youth progressing to become a solid first team player. Wether that's our academy and reserve structure not getting them ready early enough for the manager to feel confident to pick them, or the first team manager not picking them early enough, or a bit of both doesn't really matter to me. It needs reviewed and then improved so the 'pathway' works better. So over to Hammel, Craigan and Robinson to do that...

Yep defintley. Would be a shame to lose him so early if indeed he chooses to go. If we do then weve probably got some thinking to do on our strategy of bleeding in young players and offering of contracts. Hard balance mind you.