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I'm getting strong vibes of " Rangers are the Big team I support" from some of the posters on here ie it's all the green uglies fault. At the risk of repeating myself they are both culpable for everything that is wrong in Scottish football. I live in hope that they and their moronic supports will both feck off to England or some European super league one day and leave the rest of us to enjoy football again

To be clear, I think the fans/officials of Rangers and Celtic are equally obsessed when it comes to conspiracy theories and I also think both Clubs benefit from refereeing decisions as a result. But I do think MJC has a fair point when he states that Celtic are way ahead of the rest when it comes to manipulating the media and utilising their influence across all aspects of Scottish football. An example I keep hearing that the penalty Rangers conceded against Kilmarnock was the first domestic penalty they have conceded this season. Even the BBC headline still reads "Rangers concede first penalty since Jan 2022". That is just not true. Domestically they have conceded 3 penalties this season, and 1 was in a Cup Semi Final where Shankland scored. So it was not a nothing game. Fans too often are happy to accept what the media say without question and this forum is no different. Only one top team in Scotland has not conceded a domestic penalty this season and that is Celtic. Not that you would believe that fact given their recent media comments. And I don't see it reported anywhere in the media that it is 23 league games since Celtic last conceded a penalty. The closest run to that is St Johnstone on 13 games. We are on 3. This during a stretch where Celtic's American full back seems to think he is playing Basketball rather than football. Taylor is not much better. So media reporting and wording is very selective and manipulative. I wonder why? Regards the Rangers incident. Of course it was not a penalty because of an offside in the immediate build up. Nobody in their right mind would argue any differently. But Rangers are correct in saying that Collum inexplicably decided there was no hand ball offence and then awarded a goal kick. If he had correctly ruled there had been a hand ball, procedures would have kicked in and the offside discovered then and there. So no penalty and an offside free kick awarded instead. The Authorities elected to ignore Collum's incompetence and midway through the second half announced the offside finding, which appears like an attempt at justification. No acknowledgement of any error. The questions Rangers are asking are why did Collum not award a handball and thereafter follow laid down procedures? I believe they are entitled to pose those questions. The deflection tactics introduced to avoid addressing those issues are insulting and reflect badly on Scottish football. And that disregard is nothing new. Remember the penalty we were denied against Aberdeen when Lamie's shirt was almost ripped off but the VAR had gone home for the day? Instead of decrying Rangers for demanding answers, fans, Club Officials and especially the Media should be asking the same questions. Only then might we see an improvement and balance in refereeing standards. It won't happen though and the refereeing inconsistency will continue as will the carefully placed media comments which heap more pressure on the Officials to think twice about penalising certain teams.

🤔 I’d be checking sources, 11 appearances which is nearly two handfuls in Ayrshire and the likes.

Give it a rest with that patter. That type of attitude is yet another reason why Celtic are able to control and manipulate everyone, because anyone who dares speak out is immediately labelled a Rangers fan without the bus fare/a bigot. And that’s not even just from Celtic fans either! You see that pish trotted out on here all the time whenever anyone goes against the grain and calls Celtic out for what they are. Both clubs have their faults and both sets of supports certainly have faults, but Celtic are way out in front of Rangers imo, and you don’t have to support or even like Rangers to see that. All it takes is a little bit of thinking for yourself and forming your own view based on that.

Ditto. I’m enough of a prick as is.

It was a handball but also offside. This is from team who still moaned about first penalty conceded against them on wed since about 2013. And there rivals from other side of city just as bad. So grateful my dad was a Well fan

Aye, a real shame. Liverpool and Leeds offered him terms to join their Academies and Motherwell were happy with what was proposed compensation wise. Went to train with Liverpool for a couple of weeks prior to deciding who to join, but suffered a bad injury whilst down there. Motherwell stuck by him, hoping he could get back to something like his best. It was encouraging when he made the bench last season......maybe featured once? Sadly his time with us has now come to an end. Good luck to the lad. The damage to his career due to injury at such a young age highlights why it is difficult for youth players to refuse a move when offered attractive terms elsewhere. Nobody knows what is round the corner.

Nothing at all to do with "The big team I support". Trotting out that response is akin to the rabid nonsense that is rolled out from both ends of Glasgow. It is about the lack of factual reporting by the Media, incompetent refereeing (which this thread is about) coupled with selective use of VAR, and the fact that nobody is prepared to challenge those issues or hold the Authorities to account. I very much doubt that any Motherwell fan has a soft spot for either Rangers or Celtic, especially if they have attended any matches against either, home or away. Anybody who does not recognise the vile atmosphere they create is either in denial or deaf and blind. Then again, the Motherwell fan in front of me at Easter Road who regularly shouted out "Dirty f****n Bastard" does make me wonder. I do share your hope for an Old Firm free football environment though. Sadly that is never going to happen even if a European Super League with both in it is established. Our lords and masters would ensure both could field B Teams in the Premiership. I suspect our Board, or any other, would not raise any objections. That seed has already been sown.

Not for me mate but I can see why halliday would be a player that gets mentioned,I think we need a bit of pace and energy injected into our midfield,were so slow in there with and without the ball and I don't think he fits the bill in that's sense.it seems hearts are willing to let him go so he might be one that kettlewell has his eye on.

We’ve just missed santa by a week or so.

This is how Celtic get away with their control, manipulation and bullying of match officials and the wider Scottish game… attitudes like yours. People with their heads so deep in the sand that they can’t or won’t see that Celtic are the real problem. People that are so bitter and obsessed with Rangers that they can’t and won’t see Celtic for what they are. There may have been a great deal of vilification by Rangers towards officials, governing bodies and other clubs in recent times, but it’s nowhere near on the same scale as the other mob and they certainly don’t have the same clout and control that they do either. Like I say, Celtic and Celtic alone caused a refereeing strike and managed to get a referee thrown out of the game for overturning a penalty decision. That was just once instance in a long line of Celtic driven bullying and manipulation of the Scottish game and to suggest that Rangers are anywhere near the same level as them in that regard, or more accurately have the same power and influence as they do is, to use your words “preposterous nonsense”.

The vilification going the way of referees, the SFA, SPFL and every other league club from Rangers fans since their club died has been off the scale. To suggest that only Celtic do this is preposterous nonsense.

Abso-fuckin-lutely not......

Not for me. Nothing against him personally. Just dont think he would be a good fit for us on our budget.

I think this is definitely the case. I would have probably have gone 4 at the back and played a 4-3-3 but not sure that would have looked a lot different in and out of possession. We were down to bare bones yesterday so getting a point was pretty good, a win would have been quite incredible.

Who gives a rats arse how many penalties the ugly sisters get or give away, they are a cancer on Scottish football that the football authorities including referees pander to constantly to the detriment of every other club in Scotland.

thank feck i got 1 right :):) £50k allegadlly