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A couple of questions for those in the know.
The first is straight forward. I hadn’t realised that we had a kit that went 1978 to Jan 79. Why did it change mid season?
The second is a bit long winded, a little more controversial but genuine none the less. Indulge me.
My first Well game was 1984 so have seldom seen the hoop. In fact, I can recall more non band/hoop shirts than hoops.
A quick look on historical kits shows the hoop being in use continuously from 1928 and to 1969 and only used once again since (Hummel 1994-96).
So, of our 133 years of existence, the hoop has been in use for less than a third of this time. The white shorts have featured more in the past 50 years than the hoop.
Why is the absence of the hoop considered to be a break from tradition?
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3 hours ago, Inthebasement said:
Like it or not, Cadden has opted for a deal he would have known left Well screwed, to the degree we are now considering legal action. There is no point in pretending he was powerless, it's simply not true.
Absolutely agree
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It’s the “best of both worlds” justification that sticks in the craw because he’ll know all too well how much this will impact on the club financially.
Oxford are clearly at it as it wasn’t all that long ago that they were staving off administration due to the ongoing battle over the stadium and alleged owed revenues with the previous owner.
poor show all round
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Chris Cadden can go f**k himself !!!
Chris Cadden explains controversial Motherwell exit for Oxford via Columbus Crew
Well could miss out on compensation after the Scotland international moved to the MLS before being immediately shipped out to Oxford, who had wanted to sign him from the Fir Park club.
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Former Motherwell midfielder Chris Cadden says his controversial transfer to Oxford United, via a loan from from Columbus Crew, as getting the "best of both worlds".
The Scotland international moved to the MLS, but was immediately shipped out to Oxford, who had wanted to sign him from the Fir Park club.
The route to the League One club meant they got their man without having to pay the cross-border compensation fee that Motherwell would have been due for developing the player through their academy.
Well believe they are owed about £200,000 from the American club – they could have expected £320,000 if he had gone direct to Oxford - and Stephen Robinson 's side are preparing to lodge a bid for compensation.
Cadden made his debut for Oxford as he played 70 minutes in a 1-1 friendly draw against Fulham on Tuesday. And afterwards, he insisted he was happy with the move.He told the Oxford Mail : "I thought hard about it. America is a great opportunity for me and it will be good to see a different country, because I’ve never played outside Scotland.
"But Oxford gave me a chance to play in England, which I wanted to grab with both hands. It’s a real honour for me to play for this club.
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1 hour ago, ONeils4oyarder said:
Is it not a good thing, not to be paying agents fees? Apologies if that sounds completely stupid.
I don’t know if I’m honest. Instinctively, I’d say yes but significantly ignorant to the process to be persuaded otherwise by someone in the know.
Given that the majority of lower league transfers are frees, I would guess that the agent fee would be representative of the contract and player value?
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This is an interesting barometer of the economic divide between Scottish clubs. What is intriguing also is when you then compare it to agent expenditure in English league 2 and how most Scottish non OF clubs are dwarfed by their spending power.
Northampton £92,125
MK Dons £80,263
Mansfield £77,932
Cheltenham £61,253
Port Vale £60,027
Oldham Athletic £55,551
Notts County £55,130
Cambridge United £48,930
Lincoln City £44,434
Forest Green £40,431
Colchester United £38,642
Stevenage £38,460
Grimbsby Town £38,104
Crawley £32,160
Newport County £31,952
Yeovil £27,931
Carlisle United £27,431
Tranmere Rovers £26,112
Swindon £18,000
Exeter City £14,490
Morecambe £13,486
Crewe Alexandra £10,638
Bury £6,075
Macclesfield Town £1,000
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Yeh that’s the one !!!!
Fond memories of this kit and whilst it wasn’t a stellar era, there were some good players who wore it like Jonny G, big softie and ahem....Paul Kinnaird.
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10 hours ago, Spiderpig said:
I liked Bowman when he was with us, not the most gifted player but he always worked hard and put himself about in every game,
It’s been his work rate that’s stopped him from being turned on by Exeter fans. He was a replacement for the prolific Jayden Stockley and they’ve really missed those goals in the second half of the season. They love his “good honest pro” attributes.
Hopefully, Ryan can keep the goals coming just a little longer and sneak the Grecians to their third consecutive play off final.
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17 hours ago, daver said:
Derek Adams has been sacked by Plymouth with them a point above the relegation places in League 1.
Having just dropped into the relegation zone with only 2 games to go, Plymouth had better be hoping for that post manager bounce.
It was only this time last year that Adams was being hailed the messiah for taking them to a baw hair from the playoffs.
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3 hours ago, ropy said:
Don’t know how it works down there but they obviously didn’t appeal Kipre’s red card
They did appeal it but it was rejected like pretty much every other appeal that goes to the FA regulatory commission.
One game ban
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On 4/20/2019 at 6:58 PM, Ya Bezzer! said:
We can't have had many teenage central midfielders that get into double figures in league goals having missed the first quarter of the season.
In fact I'm struggling to think of a central midfielder that got 10 in a season of any age.
Without doing a stat check, I think Stevie Kirk was the only midfielder who springs to mind to have scored more than 10 and he wasn’t really a CM.
The boy is phenomenal!!!
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24 minutes ago, Neilwell86 said:
I was actually referring to Jake Hastie and his comments about wanting to stay and continue his development at Motherwell and not Alan Burrows who I also think comes across very well in the media.
Fair do’s and my bad. Yeh, it might just come back and bite the boy on the bum. Maybe he does want to stay, 10 years is a long time and ‘Well is all he knows but the allure of big money and a bigger club is overwhelming.
Fingers crossed he sees the mutual value in the deal offered by the club as 13 games does not make a star.
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21 hours ago, Neilwell86 said:
saying what he said so publicly was very naive, which is to be expected from someone so young with probably next to no media training. Imagine he came out with that line to appease a rangers support, god help him.
No media training? It was his use of media that has propelled Burrows to the hierarchy of the club in the first instance. In fact, I consider his ability to be media savvy whilst not sounding too corporate to be refreshing.
I would wager that the clubs policy on youth development signings is not dissimilar to the majority of grow your own clubs like us. We all now know the policy on contract offers for youth and his examples of past errors were bang on the money.
To use Rangers or indeed Celtic as a benchmark of fan acceptance isn’t a credible one. They both have somewhat distorted views on the world.
As a barometer, I have a season ticket for Charlton who have an almost identical policy to Motherwell in terms of youth development. Manager Lee Bowyer has been saying almost exactly the same thing about home grown and out of contract midfielder Jo Aribo and the fans love him for his candour and in this instance the way he (as Burrows has done) exposed the agent and put a public arm around the player.
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8 hours ago, SCDave said:
I wonder what's longer, his list of shirt requests, or his list of cease and desist requests?
He's going to get himself into a fair amount of bother from clubs AND brands.I have wondered about this in this past. There are clearly licensing laws otherwise full detail retro shirts would be readily available.
There must be some kind of loophole though. One of my boys summer holiday highlights during our annual trip to Turkey is getting all of the up to date shirts of all the top teams. The shirts are of a good standard and available in most clothing stores in full display of the authorities.
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I can see why he’s being inundated, the quality of product is better than much of the competition. I haven’t seen the 78 shirt on their website. Do you have a link?
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Hey UBH, did you get any joy with Aztec on the white Umbro shirt?
Also, if you’re still in contact with them, any chance you can chat them up for the ‘82 (home and away) and ‘86 Scotland shirts?
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7 hours ago, robsterwood said:
True. Just fed up loosing exciting players season after seadon. The life of well fan i suppose. Just want these prospects on longer contracts.
Without getting into the length of contract debate again, it is still heartening that we now have a number of young exciting players coming through and being given opportunity to prove themselves.
The frustration around the lack of youth development has been a recurring theme on here for some time.
Hopefully the rather meaningless end to the season will give increased opportunity for those knocking at the door
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Then what were you doing?
There were 2 ways you could’ve commented on your quick stay check. I would’ve chosen to take heart from the blokes game count.
You interpreted a negative and conveyed it in your usual passive aggressive manner but this time with a hilarious attempt at humour.
so what was the point you were making? Or were just cracking an unfunny?
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19 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said:
124 appearances and has never scored.
Bringing him in as a striker coach?
Yep, let’s decide that he’s pish before he even pulls on the photoshoot jersey.
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3 hours ago, Yorkyred said:
Another player who’s status has risen very quickly, not that long ago I was one of the few who felt if given a run in the team he had something to offer, many seemed to have already written him off.
Well, I reckon the club should’ve known how good he was when they signed him.
Why didn’t they see it !!??!!
They should’ve offered a 3 year deal and a loyalty card at tinto tapas ...... how could they have got this so wrong !!??!!
I think he would’ve definitely signed for longer in the summer on the offer of the loyalty card.
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It’s been a strange one at Scunthorpe this year. They’ve gotten used to finishing in the playoffs year on year and oddly sacked their manager at the end of August.
They’d lost 4 or 5 key players to the championship leaving McCall with very little opportunity to make any signings of his own and a small squad at the end of the window.
He signed a lot of players in January with a big claim that they’d push on to challenge for the playoffs. None of them have really made a difference and inconsistency has pulled McCall into the tightest relegation dogfight in years.
Going into the weekend, Scunthorpe were amongst 13 teams who could be in a relegation spot come 5pm. McCall lost a must win against Rochdale yesterday whilst key rivals won leaving Scunthorpe only 2 points away from relegation.
It’s hardly a surprise he’s been sacked but I think it was the wrong gig in the first instance.
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8 hours ago, underboyleheating said:
You could be on to something. According to YouTube our 94-96 Pony kit was worn in this 93-94 game against Rangers.
Motherwell 2 Rangers 1, April 94That’s the game !
I remember leaving fir park that night thinking for the first and probably last time in my life that we just might be in with a shout of winning the league.
This final table shows just how close we were. IIRC, we were in the running right up to the penultimate fixture and then St Johnstone beat us 2-1 at fir park on the last day of the season to drop us to 3rd.
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Scott McDonald didn’t. If I recall correctly, he cut the collar out of his