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He was out of condition when he went to Killie and he couldn't displace their strikers. We can't afford him plus he will be going back to Holland. It's up to his club whether he goes out on loan again

I agree and I don't think we could afford him either. The age thing isn't an issue for me. We just can't afford his wages. If Killie were paying him 10k a week irrespective of who was paying most of it. We aren't going to be able to afford anywhere near that. Time we moved on from him

He's still contracted elsewhere and he'll be returning there.

Perhaps the step up was too much in hindsight. Maybe not at the beginning but it was clear his form dipped. I suppose the fact that theres a lot of quality at Celtic and more competition doesn't help. Whereas he would stroll into our team.

Well it was the number of draws that killed us so in that respect you are completely right.

I did put my post in context that other teams with more clean sheets than us finished lower down the table including Livi who were relegated. I was also responding to someone else's post who was talking about our poor defence. Which has been underperforming as has Kelly In that context I dont think they matter that much - if other people don't agree that's completely fine.

Don't think we would have a hope of landing either of them to be honest.

That's Kelly been named in Steve Clarkes provisional squad.

Friendlies used to be great back in the day to be fair.

Anyhoo. Who do folk think will be our next goalie? Wrong answers only... No seriously......

We do seem to spend an inordinate amount of time talking about how shite all our players are.... For context not saying everyone does it but it's been a bit miserable on here this day for some reason.

Don't think anyone's save percentage has been that brilliant tbh. Not that much between a lot of the teams.

I get this point too. But if our defence was better a lot of the goals against us wouldn't have been a consideration. If we have a bombscare defence it's not all on Kelly

I think he will fare better with a better defence in front of him

I agree. Id be happy to keep both SOD and McGinn. Bevis is the one I think needs to go.

I also personally think that clean sheets don't matter that much. Livi Ross County and St Johnstone had more clean sheets than us but we finished higher. And Kelly was outstanding for us in a couple of big games. When we beat Rangers and the draw at Parkhead. His clean sheet stats were much better for us in previous seasons. So clearly the dip in form for the defence must have contributed.

I assume though that Kelly will be going there as back up. And even if Motherwell did want him to stay and offered him new terms we can't compete with their wages. I actually don't think he's a bad keeper. He's just lost confidence this season like a lot of players did.

Aye. It would be great. I'd take any team to be fair. 🤣

Kettlewell also rates him highly so I don't see him going anywhere unless he turns the offered terms down.

I don't think that would be a pre contract given that his contract with us is up at the end of May.

Because clearly he's on the road to recovery and the club probably want to do the decent thing by him. Anyway - it's all rumour at this stage because the official list isn't out yet.

I didn't see anyone dragging Miller down last season.

It was made clear in January Halliday would be signing a permanent deal in the summer. Don't see how retaining him would be any huge surprise.

Ah ok. I'd like to keep both. From recollection SOD came to Motherwell hoping for a bigger deal elsewhere but it didn't happen. I remember my brother being surprised that we had got him.

Well that makes more sense - the rumours I mean.