Ya Bezzer!

If a name is anything to go by Cole Starrs is a multi million pound player!

Don't read the Record but I heard Moult on Radio Scotland tonight and it was pretty obvious he wants away.

The only striking Stockley does is with his elbows. Dirty cunt.

Literally no idea how to defend. Was better further up the pitch.

Based on last season Thomas just wasn't good enough. Amble opportunity to prove him self last term playing just over 90 minutes of league football, comprising 4 sub appearances, three of which we were getting gubbed in when he came on. The end for me was that 14 minute appearance against Kilmarnock when he failed to do anything to break the 0-0 deadlock. Mentioning that Scott McDonald, Louis Moult and Lionel Ainsworth started that match and did fuck all is merely a deflection tactic, one might even say evil and disingenuous sophistry. The blame for that performance rested purely on young Thomas. Personally, in an age when our youth side win cups and achieve superb league placings, the only way to go is to ditch these youngster with their track record of success at youth level and focus purely on our next signing from Dagenham & Redbridge. Bradley Hudson-Odoi, Oliver Hawkins and Mitch Brundle come on down. The heady heights of 3rd bottom awaits.

You've hit the nail on the head. The problem isn't a pre season defeat to Gateshead. It's the context of the defeat in the wider scale of things. Because Scottish football is without doubt is absolutely dreadful by any objective measure and Motherwell have consistently been poor even at the current level of quality. So when I put down £700 odd quid for a couple of season tickets and then go along to our first pre-season match and see a team signed from English lower leagues or even non leagues, most of them 6 foot plus, pumping high balls to a lone striker against part timers from the fourth tier of Scottish football, and not only that but actually being outplayed, what am I supposed to think? That's nothing to do with fitness or experimentation. It's a footballing mentality that's sub standard and should not be accepted. This is the conclusion I draw - Motherwell FC, 30 years in the Scottish Premier League, are being turned into Ebbsfleet United before our very eyes. The standard of player, the standard of manager, the tactics, the footballing mentality, the standard of professionalism. It's just not good enough for a top national league side and all the excuses and explanation in the world doesn't change that. I don't even particularly care about our league position next season. What I'm extremely concerned about is the standard of football. So keep telling yourself everything is alright, as another 200 fans drift away, then the season after that another 150, then the season after that another 90. It's not good enough - and if you think it is you are part of the problem.

Exactly. Our rivals are Ross County and Kilmarnock.

Remember the same being said when we were thrashed by Stranraer during the Malpas pre-season.

Not how it works though. Probably the best player we've had at this club in a long, long time was Darren Randolph and we didn't get a penny for him. For me, he was the best goalkeeper in the league the whole time he was here and yet Celtic managed to sell his contemporary Fraser Forster on for 10 million. For every goal Lee Erwin scored Louis Moult has 6 yet I think we'll be doing well to get the same fee.

Moult can sign a pre contract after Christmas. If he's not sold this window we won't get anything for him, so we aren't in a strong negotiating position unless there was a bidding war between a few clubs. It might be its better to keep him and let him go next season depending on what clubs are willing to offer. I know we have offered him a new contract but taking off the. Motherwell specs he'd be mad to sign it.

Dembele was much more accomplished against Stirling. Wasn't at the Livingston match but based on what I've seen it kind of worries me a bit.

The summer football idea is one that has always struck me to as staggeringly stupid. There is no guarantee of better weather, in fact as well can all see looking out the window the weather usually gets worse in June, July and August, with big increases in monthly rainfall and high humidity. Secondly, in terms of European results, I think it probably would help the likes of St. Johnstone for a round or two but then what? It would still be immensely difficult to get a Scottish provincial side anywhere near the groups stages of the Europa League. In the Third Qualifying round last year teams like Spartak Moscow, Hertha Berlin and Lille were put out. Competition in Europe at that level is intense and to put it frankly we just aren't good enough to actually compete at that level any more. And inevitably if Celtic qualified for the group stages of the Champions League the whole media focus would be on why they were playing these matches at the end of the season and how it was hampering their attempts to take the next big step forward. Then there is the possibility of summer competition qualification. OK, that seems unlikely from a Scotland international team perspective in the near future but every two years the SPFL would be in competition with a major international football event. It would be madness. I could go on further but my dinner's ready ha ha ha!

Ha ha! I have some of the driest pants around here. I'm simply reporting what I saw. First half performance was very poor and I didn't even see much enthusiasm or energy from the players. Second half much better but then what does that say about the guys that were out in the first half? The squad as a whole will have to up its game otherwise we will find ourselves in a similar situation as last season when we relied far too heavily on 2 or 3 players. Based on Saturday we need Cadden and McHugh in the team or we aren't very good. Lots of improvement needed from the rest if we are going to do anything next season. Hopefully we see that in the upcoming matches, didn't see it on Saturday though.

Moult's injury problems might actually be a boon for us. No doubt if he stays it will because other teams have counted it against him.

I don't think anyone should read too much into the game yesterday but it should be a concern if half your squad are comprehensively outplayed by a part time League 2 team who are just back their holidays.

10 changes at half time. Better 2nd half, higher pace and some real tackles. Looked more effective with Thomas and Cadden on the flanks. Dembele was entertaining, potential cult player.

2-0 Bowman. Nice work down the right from Gordon and Cadden and a tidy finish.

Miles off the pace, way too many long balls, one up front, defence a shambles, should have been 3-0 down before we scored. On the upside it was a well take goal from Tuton.

If only we had access to these infallible scouts we wouldn't have signed two dozen duffers in the last few seasons.

Well I'm not in negotiations. I'm just saying what I think they are realistically worth if I was in the market for these players. Two different things.

Doubt it. Henaghan isn't worth a dime - realistically. Cadden - you are going to be very lucky to get 500k for a technically limited player, who doesn't score many goals and hasn't kicked a ball in about 6 months. Moult - look what Ross County got for Liam Boyce. There's no chance of getting £1m for him. Would most likely be closer to half of that.

Lafferty would be an excellent purchase for any team in this league, even his old team. Well outside our budget though.

Sadly there's a few parallels with the Dundee game all those years ago when we got pumped!

I have plenty shades of grey. Laing was fourth choice centre back on merit, was enormously outperformed by an unknown Northern Ireland teenager who came from nowhere midseason, got punted, then helped Inverness a) become the only team in the league to concede more goals than Motherwell, b) stay bottom of the league for virtually the entire duration of his time there and c) get relegated out the league. As for the play offs - is that when we brushed aside Championship level guff who were lucky to get past Queen of the South in the 3rd/4th place quarter final? That's what I'm saying, that's his level.

When are people going to get it into their heads that Louis Laing is fucking garbage? Accies level signing - at best.