Ya Bezzer!

St. Mirren's recent results St. Johnstone A L 0-2 Celtic H L 0-2 Motherwell A L 0-5 Ross County H L 0-3 Kilmarnock H W 4-1 Partick Thistle A L 0-3 Says it all.

Hammell, came in, did well, looked solid and he didn't fade in the later stages like you might have expected. Unlike Johnson,by the way, who is out of puff after an hour most games.

McDonald scored today. Our bunch of self flagellants hate anyone that can actually give us a fighting chance of winning a game. McDonald was half great, half poor today. I guess inconsistent is the word that covers it but you can hardly complain about something coming into a struggling team and scoring 4 from 9.

Kilmarnock have lost 6 on the trot and haven't won away from home since 1st Jan. What's unrealistic about thinking we might win, not even will win, might win? Sometimes I wonder if people on here actually watch any football. Just look at the play off final last season. Can you imagine what the cynics would have said if we went into an away leg 2-0 down? Probably the same we are hearing from them now. And there are a million other examples of very unlikely things happening in football matches. It's football, anything can happen, and until it can't happen that's the way it will stay.

And you and everyone you love will die. Better not have any hopes or dreams eh?

Yeah it's embarrassing to think a team undefeated at home in 7 can beat a team in freefall and go 3 points behind with two matches to play. No one is saying we aren't favourites to finish 11th but what about SUPPORTING THE TEAM while there is still a chance we can get out of this? Radical eh?

Started decent today and thought we deserved to take the lead and we looked comfortable Then Long spilled a shot and we got a bit jittery at the back again. Dunno what O'Brien was doing for the goal. Just another bad personal mistake. Second half I felt we were lacking a bit. Didn't look really motivated or up for it and County came more into the match. Having said that we still probably should won the game on chances created. Looked like we should have had a penalty as well. But we lacked composure in the last third, poor corners and set pieces, poor shooting, poor decision making. Congratulations to Stevie Hammell though for coming back after a long time out and putting in a real good shift. Unbelievable we have another crack at the cherry on Friday. Only lost 1 in our last 7 home matches so it's still on but next week REALLY IS a 'must win'.

I'm really fucking tired of our manic depressive fans wanting to cut the teams throat when there is everything still to play for. They are obviously miseries that don't actually want to escape the play off or relegation just so they can wallow in self pity. Really poor turn out today and the ground was sweetie wrappers for most of the game. People are always going on about the team throwing the towel in but our support is just as bad if not worse.

Long Law O'Brien McManus Hammell Grant Lasley Johnson Pearson McDonald Erwin Think that's how it will be.

To be honest I agree with the SPFL here even though it could potential cost me dough. Hibs sold season tickets on the basis that play off matches would be included, before the SPFL was formed. The rules are as they stand mean Motherwell should abide by the rules. Frankly all rules changes should be between the end of May and the beginning of August. The rules at the beginning of the season should stand at the end of the season.

Laing either isn't going to play or is going to play, be clearly unfit and then hobble off after 25 minutes.

Grant has been worse than useless out on the left. Looks completely uncomfortable there. The problem with that idea is we don't really have anyone that can play wide midfield with a defensive mindset, unless you maybe double up the full backs Hammell/Straker on one side Ramsden/Law on the other. If you go 4-3-3 you still leave space down the wings and it doesn't really solve anything. If you want to shore up midfield you really need to drop a forward rather than a winger to give you a spare man in the middle..

I think it was Jim Goodwin (lets blame him anyway) that stole a few yards at a free kick, then picked it up and throw it forward 2 or 3 yards, then picked it up again and threw it forward 2 or 3 yards and then did it a third time! Probably took the free kick about 15 yards from where it should have been. Not saying these things should be taken from the exact spot but the pitch is only a 100 yards long. Come one!

ESPN for individual player performance stats, things like saves, assists, shots on and off target etc.

If we get a development fee for a striker that's scored 4 goals in a season you can't complain too much.

It says Long concedes more shots on target than Twardzik does.

I think I mentioned this on P&B but Lee Erwin is basically a sort of blonde Josh Magennis. Big, powerful, runs about a lot, can be a nuisance for defenders and can't score for toffee.

This could be awkward.....oh wait you said you didn't mind if we say he's rubbish. McCall insisted in playing him in midfield and he was truly dire. At right back he's been a bit better but not of the quality that we need there if we want to be anything other than strugglers. Basically he's playing at a level beyond his ability. On the positive side he's not signed for Rangers, although we might not have minded as much as we did in Nicky's case.

For me Twardzik in goal for Long, Hammell for Straker, Sutton for Erwin and I probably agree with O'Brien for Lang if he's injured. I don't especially rate O'Brien or Kerr though. For the Dan malingers only one goal keeper in the league has made more saves than Twardzik this season (Accies McGovern) and he's not even played since January. He has 81 saves in 24 matches compared to Long's 13 saves in 10 matches. Put it another way, Twardzik saves 2 out of 3 shots on goal. Long saves 1 in 2 shots on goal.

Doesn't look ready to me. Probably needs a season as understudy but first choice might be a leap for him.

We need a new right back next season. Law has been better there than in midfield but he's still not good enough.

Slightly different circumstances though, right?

I think it should be compulsory for Motherwell fans to read about Operation Barbarosa. If the Soviet Union survied that, which seemed impossible, and then won, I don't see how Motherwell FC can't win a couple of football games on a ground were we've only lost once in the last six. Let's show a bit of grit and a bit of perspective. The game is there to win, we might not win it, but it is there to win.

Our home form is actually pretty good and St. Mirren is one of the few away grounds we've gone to and won at. A big difference from say going to Firhill needing to win when we were comprehensively beaten last time out. I'm not saying we will definately finish 10th now, but I think Ross County's defeat has opened up a real opportunity for us and Kilmarnock have lost, I think, 5 on the trot. I like to think I'm not unrealistic about where we are BUT as long as there is a possible chance of escape you've got to have a steely belief. I don't want my club or our fans to throw in the towel in a matter as important as this when we maybe could have escaped it.

You certainly can't dismiss the number of injuries we've had this season. It's been catastrophic, we've lost about 5 or 6 players for long periods including Hammell and his deputy for most of the season. I also believe the start of the season really set the tone for everything that transpired. We all wanted a winnable European match after some tough draws we got it and we blew it, not once but twice. There was individual player errors but pre season preperation just wasn't good enough and that comes down to McCall. I have a bit more sympathy towards McCall regarding the run down of the squad because I believe basically wasn't given any money, something that Baraclough can't say. He's obviously been supported by the board in a way that McCall wasn't. On the other side of the coin in terms of youth development McCall was utterly useless. Where I disagree with you is the potential of the players. We were very lucky last season to finish 2nd but I felt there was enough there for us to at least fight for a Top 6 place. Never in my wildest dreams did I think we would be 11th with a few weeks to go. You slate players that I think could still do a job for us. With a fit Pearson next to him Lasley looked back to his old self. With Lang, McManus looked a bit more secure. Twardzik, for me is better than Long (and still is 2nd top of the saves table this season). Ainsworth and Vigurs are inconsistant but we need players with a bit of flair and are worth persevering with. Others aren't good enough but I think the core of our team is still good enough that we shouldn't be in this position. Is any one telling me Dundee have better players than us? They certainly have a better manager....