Ya Bezzer!

They still make mistakes they just take longer doing it. I'm fine with goal line technology, even automatic offsides but let the referee referee the match. Checking every goal for the slightest infringement in the same phase of play is virtually anti football in sentiment.

The BBC article says he informed the club "earlier this week''. Obviously you don't get a job in a couple of days.

No one of note has wanted this job since Alexander and there are three bigger jobs in the same division that are open. Hope the club has got a great pitch lined up.

Maybe, maybe not. Didn't stop him going straight into another job in Germany.

Kinda embarrassing for everyone involved.

You honestly wonder what some fans expect. This season was a very 'average' season but the thing these days is that everything has to be 'the worst ever' or 'the best ever'.

Career has gone down a major dip but I kind of agree. He had a kind of off season with us before he left and you'd still kind of feel he was still better than a lot of the guys we've had there.....or at least not worse but with more potential. Might not be possible due to wages and he might not want to come back here at this stage in his career but I'd be inclined to take the risk if it was possible. Of course you'd need to sit down and work out what kind of shape you want and where he fits in and that's where the manager would come in.

I noticed there is a footballer called Liam Motherwell who is currently without club. Come on, give him a contract!

Amazing how much better we got when players that should have started got on the pitch.

With all the good will in the world I do not understand Wimmer’s line ups. We have no width, no offensive threat at all. There was a point where Paton won the ball in midfield, ran forward, looked up and was our furthest forward player by about 15 yards.

If you exclude Celtic, we've only lost 3 home league matches this season which isn't bad at all. A few draws in there but decent form over all. Kilmarnock are on a good run of form but their away form is exceptionally bad, 1 win and 9 defeats in their last 12. Should be looking for a home win but at this stage in the season you never know how switched on players are going to be.

We played some good football during the McCall/Brown era but lost massive amounts of money. It's simply not an option as a club model in the modern day.

Getting paid at Scottish Premiership wage levels over a career probably still makes you richer than one big move at 18 and then disappearing into a big club youth system never to be seen again. The key is giving youth players first team opportunities and the chance to actually develop a professional career. If we do that we will retain quality youth players, perhaps not all of them but some of them and maybe even most of them. With increasing costs and dwindling support there is basically no long term future without youth development. It should be central in our medium to long term planning at the club.

If we win against Kilmarnock it would be our most league wins in a season since 2018-19. Maybe you just need to find a new team during the close season. If you actually look objectively at our performances over a five season period, under multiple managers and squads, there is very little variance on any metric - wins, loses, goals, goals against, points. It's almost as if what you pay in wages is what you get on the pitch, at least in terms of ceiling. Absolutely nothing to suggest next season we won't win between 10-14 matches, lose 15-17 matches and get 45-50 points just like every other season in recent history.

Well I think the current model of massive player and management turn over every season is a bit broken for a club with our finances. I don't know if we pay loan fees or how much salary we pay to loan players but as an example is bringing in Dom Thompson to play in Ewan Wilson's position really a great financial decision? Or wasteful and failing to develop our own player? Just one example were I think we are basically spending money that doesn't need to be spent and doesn't really show a joined up and long term view. I mean how many on loan full backs have we had in the past few seasons?

I'll renew but I think the club really needs to keep a careful look at the prices. Going over £400 may be a red line for some people. At £22 per game assuming 18 matches I think it's still reasonable value but at this stage it's more about convenience than cost. And while not in the immediate short term future if the cheapest non concession season tickets start going over £450 in the next 1-3 years then I do think a lot more people are going to pause to think if that's a lump sum they can afford. I mean I've been to hundreds of gigs down the years, I just don't go any more because of the pricing. Same with the cinema, haven't been in years. Football needs to be very careful about it's pricing because I do believe we are getting close to levels of expenditure that will turn people away.

I was at the game yesterday but I was feeling ill and for most of the match just wanted to come home and I went straight to bed. Dunno if that was the quality of football, how I was feeling or a combination of both! I know we've had horrendous injury problems all season but to have two weeks prep and then put out the starting line up, formation and tactics just showed to me that Wimmer is miles off knowing what he's doing. Fair play to him he changed the shape during the match but you kinda felt any supporter could have told him that starting XI wasn't going to work. The first half was dismal until St Johnstone had their mad minute. After that you could see us playing with a bit more confidence but it's obvious this team's confidence has been shattered and is still very fragile. It's clear we need the season to end and re-set, get the injured guys back and get rid of the dead wood. Unfortunately there are four games left and with that win almost certainly securing our place in the league you wonder what kind of levels we are going to display, they've not been good enough during competitive matches. Therefore I see the immediate future as a bit of a distraction until the bigger questions are tackled close season. Still I'd be nice if we could get another victory or two before the end of the season.

Well I am entertaining the possibility that we lose all 5 games so it's a weird kind of positivity. 🤣

You know why you shouldn't bother? Because when you have relative success like achieving Top 6, Europe and the later stages of cup competitions our fans throw it back in your face. I'm afraid the kind of football and the kind of success a lot of our fans want only happens once in a blue moon when year and years of work comes together and otherwise is mainly dependent on what mostly makes the world go round - money. Ever wondered why we gut the team every season and things don't seem to get much better? Cos we pay a certain level of wages and there's a level of player that you get for that expenditure. Sure some are better than others but it averages out. It's that simple. So what you call defeatist, I call a realistic outlook. I've been going to Fir Park for 43 years. I've seen maybe 5 or 6 individual teams that actually played good football and a few of them were in a completely different football environment before massive wage increases and player contract rights. The funny thing is players like Ally Maxwell, Dougie Arnott or Jamie Dolan who were developed by the club over 3 or 4 years before they hit their stride would be sent packing by fans these days who have absolutely no patience and demand instant success. And the one trophy we have won in all that time would never have happened if the fans had had their way.

As it stands we have a 4 point advantage, or more, over all 4 teams below us. Even if we lost every match in the bottom 6, Kilmarnock and Ross County would need 4 points at least (goal difference is too close to really mean much right now so I'm not even taking that into consideration), Dundee would need 5 and St Johnstone would need 10. In the last 5 matches those clubs have taken the following Kilmarnock - 4 pts Dundee - 7 pts Ross County - 3 pts St Johnstone - 5 pts. So the worst possible scenario of us getting 0 points and using the others recent forms as an indicator, we still stay up. Even getting 1 draw makes it unlikely we finish lower than 9th. No team in the Bottom 6 has more than 1 win in their last 5 matches apart from Dundee. The chances of three teams leaping over us seems very unlikely.

How is it defeatist to actually acknowledge we got to a semi final this year?

There's been a couple of times in the last 5 or 6 years when were were in deep shit. The post police charge collapse under Robinson and the whole Hammell era which only came into being because another manager was forced out the club. Motherwell fans need to get a grip. In the natural order we are a Bottom 6 club every season and the only time we aren't are when we over achieve and others underachieve. 'That prat' had this team Top 6 all season, achieved a semi final, saved us from relegation once and had us comfortable last season. Sure it's a little bit nervy going into the last stage of the season but the only non city team that's better than us this term is St Mirren and then only by a small margin. Our fans need to get some perspective and stop the doom/crisis/it's never been worse/gut the club cycle.

I think 1 win will keep us safe. Don't see three teams leaping over us with the points advantage we have if we can get to 42 points. However the fact that we have 3 away matches and our away form is absolute garbage does make me feel a bit nervous. Beat St. Johnstone and we'll be fine. Lose that match and it's going to be a nervous end to the season. You have to remind yourself that most of the teams in the Bottom 6 would love to be in our position even if our recent performances have been abysmal. Surely we've got one good performance in us?

Fine today in that he didn't cost us a goal. Our full backs are garbage though, they offer absolutely nothing going forward which has been a basic part of the game for about 5 decades now.

Says a lot of the standard of Scottish football that that dismal fare was served up by two teams going for a Top 6 place. Neither deserved one. Honestly, 96 minutes of one big mistake. The seagulls had better movement. We've had 5 shots on target in the last 4 matches. Only positive is that Ross County and St Johnstone lost so **probably** one win keeps us safe. But even that seems like a big ask the way we are performing.